Which lockdown restrictions should be lifted?

In England, the lockdown has been extended to the end of May
However, you can buy anything that is in a shop you visit
So the corner shop has expanded their range. Paint, hardware, small power tools. Just write down what you want and Mr Sanjay the owner will get it within a day, if not that day


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Taking your dog for a walk and the opening of hardware stores as this is the perfect time to do those jobs on your house like painting and gardening etc.
 
lhuang211 said:
Restrictions on health care facilities to operate to their full capacity ie Physios ect and then one that I recently came across is the restrictions on animal healthcare now during lockdown ie certain procedures are not allowed during lockdown
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Apparently some hospitals are only operating at 30% and thus losing money. If we continue this lockdown we won't have hospitals, even if it does get bad later on due to lockdown.


I think the lockdown needs to be lifted entirely BUT a focus on businesses protecting vulnerable workers and a continuation of maybe encouraging work from home to free up the roads for services that need to physically travel would be beneficial at least slightly.
 
I feel we should be treated like responsible adults during lockdown, not locked up on house arrest. The first restriction I would like to be lifted is the right to exercise and walk our dogs. Mine can’t understand why he’s being punished. It’s verging on animal cruelty. Make restrictions like walking alone and using social distancing. We’re not allowed to stop but must keep walking.

Definitely we should be allowed to purchase alcohol and cigarettes but limit them to say, one daily per person. If anyone needs to be hospitalized for alcohol related incidents, they should be sent away or penalized.

Everything inside supermarkets and places like Makro should be for sale. What’s essential to someone isn’t essential to another person.

We should be able to do online shopping and delivery which would encourage more people to be working.

Restaurants and take always should be open for home delivery. Don’t assume everyone can cook or has facilities to do so.

Limit crowds and insist on social distancing. That way at least people will be motivated to comply. Do not steal our joy. It’s difficult enough to cope.
 
All except washing of hands. Allow high risk older people to make their own self-isolation plans and ask/receive 2m separation at shops until they feel the risk is not worth the bother. The ANC measures make very little sence from scientific risk management viewpoint for South Africa (the rainbow nation) as a whole.
 
axsis said:
Apparently some hospitals are only operating at 30% and thus losing money. If we continue this lockdown we won't have hospitals, even if it does get bad later on due to lockdown.


I think the lockdown needs to be lifted entirely BUT a focus on businesses protecting vulnerable workers and a continuation of maybe encouraging work from home to free up the roads for services that need to physically travel would be beneficial at least slightly.
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No we will have nationalized hospitals, no more two tier system. Its what the ANC is after.
 
deesef said:
At the end of the current 21-day lockdown, return the country to normal, with only the following restrictions:
1. All points of entry to the country must be closely monitored. All people who enter the country to be quarantined for 3 weeks. Consignments of Goods that enter to be tested for traces of the virus before being distributed.

2. Ramp up screening and testing for the virus big time. All suspected carriers to be quarantined or self quarantined for 3 weeks.

3. Ramp up and continue with the tracing of potential carriers and potentially infected people, using each newly infected person as a base.
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You need to get treatment for that xenophobia, I can recommend a good psychologist. News flash - the virus is in the country already. According to the Min. of Health 70% of South Africans will catch it (the vast majority will have no symptoms). The issue is the amount of treatment to be available/given to those with severe symptoms, not the ones with mild or no symptoms. People with high risk of severe symptoms (compromised immune systems because of health and age) should self-isolate and be supported while doing so.
 
rpm said:
Which lockdown restrictions do you think don’t help to prevent the spread of the coronavirus and should be lifted?
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The restrictions were/are not about the virus spreading, that ship sailed when the virus first entered SA. Flattening the curve was always a problematical goal given the level of poverty in this country: how well did it work for that other famous SA virus (HIV)? These lockdown measures have other objectives, but what? Breaking capitalistic institutions/businesses as a prelude to nationalization (ANC bail out) and land redistribution?
 
Keep bans for alcohol and tobacco products.
Allow purchase of all items in a super/hypermarket, restricting non-essentials in the same shop achieves nothing.
Get people back to work and enforce the wearing of masks, gloves and washing hands.
 
Definitely cigarettes.
Online deliveries
Fast Food of course
 
The entire lockdown is a wasted effort. The ANC government shot the economy in the head. There is only one chance to recover from this and that is if the entirety of our foreign debt is written off.
Law-abiding citizens (read: taxpayers, the backbone of our economy) followed lockdown regulations for the most part. The citizens the government scrambled to protect (the poor, diseased and the majority of their support) mostly ignored lockdown rules. Granted, I would too if I lived with my family in a shack.

My personal opinion is that this disease does not warrant any action other than awareness, but that is a moot point at this stage.

The lockdown should be ended in its current form NOW.
It can be replaced with:
  • Social distancing regulations that are enforced.
  • Controlled movement. Eg. To move outside your neighbourhood, you should have a pass to do so. Technology can manage this amazingly.
  • Workplaces to implement sanitation protocols ( including screening for fever).
  • As soon as instant testing becomes available, they should be rolled out en masse where everyone economically active is tested once a week.
What baffles me is the global knee-jerk reaction to something that no one remotely understands. There is a flu-like virus that our bodies do not understand, hence the mortality rate higher than flu. This virus will most likely become seasonal and waiting for a vaccine will not help much. The flu vaccine is only about 30% effective, and I would wager that a vaccine for Covid-19 will be similar.
 
Nelly_Man said:
I am a smoker. But I feel the restrictions are spot on really. I feel goverment is eorried people will be wasting UIF Relief money on alcohol and cigarettes. So unfortunately they have to punish those who can afford it to protect the ones who can't.
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Alas, our 'government' are the most incompetent, thieving **** wits imaginable.
And to assume they're worried about us is a laugh.
They've NEVER worried about us. Abused us, neglected us and robbed us yes, but worry??
Their 'logic' will lead to already destitute people paying R200 for a beer or a pack of smokes with the relief money...
Brilliant!
 
Goo
BrianE said:
Keep bans for alcohol and tobacco products.
Allow purchase of all items in a super/hypermarket, restricting non-essentials in the same shop achieves nothing.
Get people back to work and enforce the wearing of masks, gloves and washing hands.
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Good luck getting people to work with no alcohol or cigarettes.

Alcohol is the great placebo, and alongside coffee and cigarettes (weed too) is the reason most people subject themselves to what is essentially slavery.

Just the thought of a drink after work or a few over the weekend is all that keeps most people going.

We are an alcohol fuelled economy...
 
Fargle said:
Goo

Good luck getting people to work with no alcohol or cigarettes.

Alcohol is the great placebo, and alongside coffee and cigarettes (weed too) is the reason most people subject themselves to what is essentially slavery.

Just the thought of a drink after work or a few over the weekend is all that keeps most people going.

We are an alcohol fuelled economy...
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I like a beer once in awhile, but it's not my motivation for working, neither are cigarettes anymore either. Perhaps it's because I actually like my job, yes I don't like waking up early to get there, but the actual job and generally the people I like.
Even when we go out for drinks at work I'll have 1 beer and that's enough, I like certain ones but it doesn't drive my motivations for anything.
 
At every shop I look at you can buy routers and have them delivered, but can't buy ethernet cables. I need a 20m one.

Dumb.
 
axsis said:
Apparently some hospitals are only operating at 30% and thus losing money. If we continue this lockdown we won't have hospitals, even if it does get bad later on due to lockdown.


I think the lockdown needs to be lifted entirely BUT a focus on businesses protecting vulnerable workers and a continuation of maybe encouraging work from home to free up the roads for services that need to physically travel would be beneficial at least slightly.
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I agree with you that it needs to be lifted in a way, I think the approach that our President has taken yesterday is right. Social distancing will be part our daily lives for the months/ years to come. I have a few friends who work in the government hospitals as allied health workers ( Occupational Therapy , Speech Therapy and Physios) and they are still working but they are on bi-weekly work schedules. My original comment was referring to Private health care and allied health professionals - many of us seek our private sector because we prefer their services and those are the people that I think should be allowed to trade in their practices.

I work in the construction industry as a consultant, many of our projects are currently at a standstill and that equals to no pay which is completely damaging our industry and the economy to say the least. I know many Engineering and Construction Councils and Associations has written to the Minister, with very strict Occupational and Health requirements already a necessity Contractors and Developers are willing to take stricter regulations to make this work.
 
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