Which TV

Juggy said:
Another thing to consider is how many devices do you want to connect in the future? The STR-500 will offer much more versatility than the Z5500. You also have a built in tuner and multiple options for connecting extra CD/DVD/BluRay etc.

Personally I feel PC speakers are for PC's and HT should be built from components like the STR-500
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It's tough to get any real specs :/

I'll keep difgging.

But on the subwoofer alone, I can see it's relativly low power unit - possibly less than even the Logitec Z2300 and definatly less powerful than the Logitec 5500. I'd suspect that the 5500 subwoofer goes even lower/louder than the Sony, because there's a fair amount more to just 28hz and 30hz
 
Juggy said:
Another thing to consider is how many devices do you want to connect in the future? The STR-500 will offer much more versatility than the Z5500. You also have a built in tuner and multiple options for connecting extra CD/DVD/BluRay etc.

Personally I feel PC speakers are for PC's and HT should be built from components like the STR-500
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Fair enough - but it's slightly unfair to write off sub/sat combinations because he feels they're not as good as his Sony. They offer the full frequency with many being more powerful, THX certified and can go even lower than the Sony.

If he brings up other reasons for excludnig them - then great. But so far it's all about frequency and range.
 
Spkrs Rated Frequency Range 45Hz - 50kHz
Sub Frequency Response : Subwoofer- 28Hz-200Hz

Yes is is less powerful than the Z-2300 sub (100watts vs 120watts) and certainly a lot less powerful than the Z-5500 sub (ties in with my point that Logitech's notorious boomyness sells) but neither go lower than the Sony sub according to the specs. How something can go lower than its rated specs is beyond me?

Man this thread has been derailed badly since PC speakers were mentioned. :erm:
 
Can I ask this for you guys: When I look for a home entertainment system; what should I look for??
 
Dolby said:
Fair enough - but it's slightly unfair to write off sub/sat combinations because he feels they're not as good as his Sony. They offer the full frequency with many being more powerful, THX certified and can go even lower than the Sony.

If he brings up other reasons for excludnig them - then great. But so far it's all about frequency and range.
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I didn't write them off. The Z-5500 are probably the best "common" PC speakers on the market. I said the mids are lacking as in all PC speakers, and people who are into audio would notice the lacking mids. Big difference. :erm:

Now the Logitech sub goes lower?! :eek:

Sony: 28Hz
Logitech: 33 Hz

And the Logitech goes lower? Am I missing something?
 
There's more to simply generating a 28hz and 32hz frequency ... and a very important part is the volume with which that is generated.

Maybe educate yourself on how to read graphs and how manufacturers pull the wool over your eyes? I'm not saying the Sony is bad - especially at the price - but what I am saying is that Sony have managed to con you into believing you have a 100 watt powered subwoofer capable of 28hz.

In actual fact it's more like a 80 watt or less (10% THD, remember) with a 28hz you'll never hear in a million years. Your +- 3db is probably something like 30-40hz ... but Sony don't seem to publish much on in. If no db is given - the response is meaningless

And in anutshell - don't discard sub/sat systems
 
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drnaphtali said:
Can I ask this for you guys: When I look for a home entertainment system; what should I look for??
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First and foremost, something that you can connect all your devices to i.e. a receiver, of which the STR-500 offers best value for money for a budget of ±R5,000. The Z-5500 is not a receiver and you could only have digital audio playing from one device with them. That's why they simply aren't for home theatre/entertainment.

Secondly, something like upgrade path is something to consider. If you want an upgrade path, you will have to spent ±R5,000 on the receiver alone, let alone the speakers.

Thirdly, smaller things like having audio and video over 1 cable or whether you can handle having 2 cables.
 
PostmanPot said:
First and foremost, something that you can connect all your devices to i.e. a receiver, of which the STR-500 offers best value for money for a budget of ±R5,000. The Z-5500 is not a receiver and you could only have digital audio playing from one device with them. That's why they simply aren't for home theatre/entertainment.

Secondly, something like upgrade path is something to consider. If you want an upgrade path, you will have to spent ±R5,000 on the receiver alone, let alone the speakers.

Thirdly, smaller things like having audio and video over 1 cable or whether you can handle having 2 cables.
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+1
 
Dolby said:
There's more to simply generating a 28hz and 32hz frequency ... and a very important part is the volume with which that is generated.

Maybe educate yourself on how to read graphs and how manufacturers pull the wool over your eyes? I'm not saying the Sony is bad - especially at the price - but what I am saying is that Sony have managed to con you into believing you have a 100 watt powered subwoofer capable of 28hz.

In actual fact it's more like a 80 watt or less (10% THD, remember) with a 28hz you'll never hear in a million years. Your +- 3db is probably something like 30-40hz ... but Sony don't seem to publish much on in. If no db is given - the response is meaningless

And in anutshell - don't discard sub/sat systems
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I agree with what you are saying 100%.

In all fairness, we have not seen graphics for the Sony.

Your +- 3db is probably something like 30-40hz
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So the Sony could still be lower at 30/31Hz. :D

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This really is all off topic though. The Z-5500 simply do not belong as a suggestion in this thread. It led to us bickering about what can go lowest and such. Really irrelevant in the greater scheme of things for the OP.
 
PostmanPot said:
I agree with what you are saying 100%.

In all fairness, we have not seen graphics for the Sony.



So the Sony could still be lower at 30/31Hz. :D

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This really is all off topic though. The Z-5500 simply do not belong as a suggestion in this thread. It led to us bickering about what can go lowest and such. Really irrelevant in the greater scheme of things for the OP.
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LOL ... ok ... truce then :/
 
PostmanPot said:
Secondly, something like upgrade path is something to consider. If you want an upgrade path, you will have to spent ±R5,000 on the receiver alone, let alone the speakers.
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So all I would need additionally is the speakers if I buy a R5k receiver? Is this the amp? I'm clueless with these things, allready used most of my brainpower understanding TV's :confused:
 
The receiver is the amp, yes.

Usually is it has an AM/FM radio, they calll it home theater receiver or AV receiver
If it does, then it's a home theater amplifier or an AV amplifier

So - the only difference between the two, is the 'radio' :)
 
I believe the Z5500 did belong as a suggestion for the OPS sound needs, as the Sony isn't a bad unit, it just doesn't sound like the Z5500s. Honestly if the OP could save up, getting a decent amp would be the first step
 
drnaphtali said:
So all I would need additionally is the speakers if I buy a R5k receiver? Is this the amp? I'm clueless with these things, allready used most of my brainpower understanding TV's :confused:
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That's right. You will need about R5,000 more for entry level speakers, so you're looking at a minimum of about R10,000. But they will be better than the STR-500's speakers. You should go and demo the STR-500 to determine whether you need more or not. Unless of course you have the budget, then by all means, go for the separate Pioneer/Yamaha amp + speakers (I'm sure Dolby can suggest some entry level ones besides Wharfedale Diamonds and others).
 
Lupus said:
I believe the Z5500 did belong as a suggestion for the OPS sound needs, as the Sony isn't a bad unit, it just doesn't sound like the Z5500s. Honestly if the OP could save up, getting a decent amp would be the first step
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OP said:
My purpose for the TV is as follow: getting HD PVR, so it will mostly be used for HD viewing, SD tv, some sport (just rugby, cricket and some tennis).
Getting a PS3 so I will occasionally watch Blu-Rays and play games (not hardcore though, just the occasional GT5, guitar hero and FIFA11)
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That's already 2 and probably more sources. Therefore the Z-5500 would not suffice, from the beginning.
 
Odd that, as the HD PVR goes in to the coaxial port (digital) and the PS3 into the optical port... So it has two digital inputs and 2 analogue inputs, I'm not sure where you kept assuming it only has one digital input?
 
Lupus said:
Odd that, as the HD PVR goes in to the coaxial port (digital) and the PS3 into the optical port... So it has two digital inputs and 2 analogue inputs, I'm not sure where you kept assuming it only has one digital input?
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You are right. Not sure either, so I'm sorry about that.

Limited for expansion though. DVD/Blu-ray, media player, etc.
 
Yup seeing as the Sony STR500 offers 1 more optical port over the Z5500 so it's a real expansion king there. Also DVD Player/Blu Ray player is handled by the PS3.
 
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