Why a computer can never be conscious

Wonder if consciousness is object-oriented, are they using python? visual basic?
 
ToxicBunny said:
I would say anyone who says that conciousness in a computer (whatever that computer may be) is impossible is a monumental retard.
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Weird how consciousness being a mystery causes some people to push it into a magical realm.
 
Arthur said:
Duh. Of course no machine can be conscious. It's an axiomatic truth. Just like the sum of the internal angles of a plane triangle can never be anything but 180 degrees. Ever. We know this without having to measure any or every triangle in the universe.
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Jesus says you don't know what happens in the quantum realm so best is to just leave his triangles alone..

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saor said:
Weird how consciousness being a mystery causes some people to push it into a magical realm.
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Its pretty standard though really...

We don't understand it now, therefore we will never be able to replicate it.....

When the statement can only accurately be "We don't understand it now, therefore we can't replicate it yet. When we do understand it in the future, we may be able to replicate it"
 
I studied Computational Intelligence and in my opinion I can't really see why a computer won't ever be conscious.

To quote the article:
"Our basic argument is that brains integrate and compress multiple components of an experience, including sight and smell – which simply can’t be handled in the way today’s computers sense, process and store data. "

In the future computers may sense, process and store data differently. Who are we to say never?
 
ToxicBunny said:
Its pretty standard though really...

We don't understand it now, therefore we will never be able to replicate it.....

When the statement can only accurately be "We don't understand it now, therefore we can't replicate it yet. When we do understand it in the future, we may be able to replicate it"
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I'm guessing there's a line with theists on one side with a belief that consciousness is something 'special', rather than something that occurs naturally in this universe that can arise in certain kinds of beings & configurations of matter. If consciousness is a natural part of our universe, it would be strange if only meat-brains could acquire it.

 
In case our AI overlord do become conscious and (most definitely) might super-read through this thread (and many others) ; I would just like to wholeheartedly and for the record state that I support this venture.

Thank you.
 
Jamie McKane said:
Why a computer can never be conscious

Many advanced artificial intelligence projects say they are working toward building a conscious machine, based on the idea that brain functions merely encode and process multisensory information. The assumption goes, then, that once brain functions are properly understood, it should be possible to program them into a computer. Microsoft recently announced that it would spend US$1 billion on a project to do just that.

So far, though, attempts to build supercomputer brains have not even come close. A multi-billion-dollar European project that began in 2013 is now largely understood to have failed. That effort has shifted to look more like a similar but less ambitious project in the U.S., developing new software tools for researchers to study brain data, rather than simulating a brain.

[The Conversation]
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When the "They" are trying to uplift a digital system to a figurative place where we suppose to believe that everything it spews out is above or equal to human functionings with a human or 2 right behind it and not questionable, already a huge red alarm should go off in your head and ring till you take a shower.
"They"may pull it of vaguely to understand brain funcions, and even if "they" believe they have done it, that machine will have to be made of Flesh, Blood, Chemical functions, Electrical functions operating chemically, and be able to be Alive without wiring and battery or DC power, if "they" produce that I think "they" should call us all back.

In the mean time I will wait for the call, and agencies can follow the money. The digital world is now a runaway train on volts running loose on a salt pan
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