Why can't I host games ?

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Ok, some feedback that I want. I have a general idea of why I can't host, but please give me some input of why...

Im talking about Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars, I can't host games. Anyone trying to connect, cant join my games. Also, 85% of the games I try to connect to, gives me a no-connection error.

I am connecting through a WISP, with a proxy.

I use a Mikrotik CPE, can't login to the router. WISP has password, so port forwarding not possible.

Also, I cant ping to ANY sites, I can play games locally.
(Are they blocking ports through their proxy)?

Would just like to have some feedback please.

;)
 
You have winbox I presume?

Then try your username and the default password you got when they installed your router.:rolleyes:
 
I would assume that without the login details to the router there is not much you can do since they probably applied filtering rules.
 
CVRChameleon said:
Ok, some feedback that I want. I have a general idea of why I can't host, but please give me some input of why...

Im talking about Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars, I can't host games. Anyone trying to connect, cant join my games. Also, 85% of the games I try to connect to, gives me a no-connection error.

I am connecting through a WISP, with a proxy.

I use a Mikrotik CPE, can't login to the router. WISP has password, so port forwarding not possible.

Also, I cant ping to ANY sites, I can play games locally.
(Are they blocking ports through their proxy)?

Would just like to have some feedback please.

;)
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This is the general problem with WISP's, you will also notice you won't be able to RDP or (sometimes) effectively FTP.

The reason for that is quite simple. See the WISP as a giant router. You connect to that router. Now, the way a router works is that anything inside it's local network (or WAN in this case) is recognized, so when you type in google.com, the router knows the request came from IP address xx.xx.xx.xx and that it should return this request to that IP address.

However, when hosting a game of C&C for instance, outside requests into the router won't get recognized because it doesn't know to which IP address it should send the request TO (because it didn't get the request from within it's own network) so the request to (for example) scan for a C&C game you're hosting so others may join will fail, and people would generally not be able to see the game because the router doesn't know what to do and thus ignores the scan/port connect attempt from outside.

Even if you know your IP address, the significant difference between Dialup/ISDN/ADSL and a WISP is with the former you're allocated your own external IP address, where as with the WISP you share 1 (or more sometimes) external IP addresses with several users (also connected to the WISP.

So if you know your external IP address is x.y.z.b and tell your friend to try to connect to it, the "router" won't know what to do with the request or who to give it to.

You will find that most WISP's won't allow any kind of port forwarding but they might have a service to dedicate an external IP address specifically to you to get around this problem.

Hope that made sense?

Oh, and BTW, you will almost always find that the WISP in question "intercepts" all port 25 (send email) requests and route it through their own email servers, this then speeds up the delivery of your email (from your perspective) but may take several minutes before their servers sends it out and it also opens you up to be blocked as a spammer. This is especially irratating when you own your own email server and SPF fails on it :)

Cheers
 
Oh and this is why I would never recommend a WISP as an internet provider, don't care how convienient it may be
 
AcidRaZor, thanks for that, well explained :D

Anyway, I knew something would be wrong, that the proxy blocks ports, etc.

"You will find that most WISP's won't allow any kind of port forwarding but they might have a service to dedicate an external IP address specifically to you to get around this problem."

Ok, that makes sense then.
Games like CSS, when more than one person on the same WISP connects, we get a "shared IP from another location error", and its then a black screen.....
Torrents don't work, ping don't work, etc. etc. But, what is very strange still is why DO I then connect to a few games in CNC3 online.... although its only about 1 in 10 games I try to join....

Anyway, the reason why I asked all this is because : I told them about the problem, the WISP technical network administrator just said "THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH OUR NETWORK SETTINGS, IT's YOUR PC". Now, htf should I get ports forwarded, when AcidRaZor also said the WISP is the one allowing connections, or not.

ALL THIS, BECAUSE THIS WISP WAS PROMISED TO WORK WITH ONLINE GAMING... and they have the WORST service ever... uhm NO service, NO INTENTION OF TRYING TO HELP WITH PROBLEMS LIKE THIS :mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
AcidRaZor said:
Oh and this is why I would never recommend a WISP as an internet provider, don't care how convienient it may be
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I would also NOT recommend ANY kind of wireless connection, ie. HSDPA, WIFI, etc. If someone is into gaming get ADSL. BUT, I hear WiMax is also good, ..... but Im sceptical.

Basically, wireless technologies is for people wanting to browse, send email..

Downloads maybe... but ONLINE GAMING = bad latencies, no connections, etc
 
btw, the network guy telling u that crap doesnt know what he is talking bout
 
He does not, yes, or he is being just NOT HELPFULL.

Anyway, I got TOTALLY fed-up, finally cancelled today. Now its 3 months cancellation BS :mad:
But, its better to be without internet rather than crap.
 
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