The_Assimilator
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Agreed - the problem is not with welfare states, it's that they don't do a better job of ensuring that benefits go to the correct people.
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Why does Britain have an Islamist problem while America doesn't? Answer:Welfare state
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Agreed - the problem is not with welfare states, it's that they don't do a better job of ensuring that benefits go to the correct people.
I think people should remember that the promise of a better life, as in an easier lifestyle will incentivise people to go there. So there are mutliple reasons why people will live place A to go to place B. You can't discount welfare as one of those factors, but it is not the only one.
We also cannot know which factors have a greater affect than the others. It is misleading to just pick one factor and place the blame on it and it alone.
We also cannot know which factors have a greater affect than the others. It is misleading to just pick one factor and place the blame on it and it alone.
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I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back patio and filled it with seed. What a beauty of a bird feeder it is as I filled it lovingly with
seed. Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.
But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue.
Then came the ****. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the chairs, the table...everywhere!
Then some of the birds turned aggressive. They would dive bomb me andtry to peck me even though I had fed them out of my own pocket. And other birds were boisterous and loud. They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.
After a while, I couldn't even sit in my own back garden anymore. So I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone. I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built all over the patio.
Soon, the back yard was like it used to be . Quiet, serene and no one demanding their rights to a free meal.
Just my opinion, but maybe it's time for the sosialist governments to take down the bird feeders.
seed. Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.
But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue.
Then came the ****. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the chairs, the table...everywhere!
Then some of the birds turned aggressive. They would dive bomb me andtry to peck me even though I had fed them out of my own pocket. And other birds were boisterous and loud. They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.
After a while, I couldn't even sit in my own back garden anymore. So I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone. I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built all over the patio.
Soon, the back yard was like it used to be . Quiet, serene and no one demanding their rights to a free meal.
Just my opinion, but maybe it's time for the sosialist governments to take down the bird feeders.
I have a bird feeder, I get to see beautiful birds in it daily. I hung it somewhere sensible in the garden on a tree. Now there is a symbiotic relationship. I get attractive and interesting bird life in my garden, and the birds get a safe source of food. Its win win.
Managing a welfare state is complicated, as we saw with BBSA, if you mismanage the resources things go bad, as you saw with my example... if more thought is put into it everyone gets along.
What Im hoping that BBSA will realize is that humans are not birds in that they dont just "go away". If you take away the bird feeders the birds will come take it from you. The bigger the gap between the rich and poor, the more unrest and crime a country will have. South Africa is a beautiful example of this. So you can choose to feed the birds or the birds will just come take the food in the end anyways.
Managing a welfare state is complicated, as we saw with BBSA, if you mismanage the resources things go bad, as you saw with my example... if more thought is put into it everyone gets along.
What Im hoping that BBSA will realize is that humans are not birds in that they dont just "go away". If you take away the bird feeders the birds will come take it from you. The bigger the gap between the rich and poor, the more unrest and crime a country will have. South Africa is a beautiful example of this. So you can choose to feed the birds or the birds will just come take the food in the end anyways.
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Except the birds never learns to find food for themselves. They will be freeloader for the rest of their lives. Really sad
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Except the birds never learns to find feed for themselves. They will be freeloader for the rest of their life. Really sad
I updated my post, and there is absolutely 0 evidence that they cant feed themselves as well. Also, feeding them is good considering youve taken their habitat and are destroying or using their resources as well.
Nothxkbi
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Hey I got no problem with Arabs, Jews, black, white anyone, I get on well with just about anyone. It's just the Islamic faith I have a major problem with. My kids must never come home one day and tell me they've become Muslim, or I'll pack their bags and send them to the ME myself!
Hey I got no problem with Arabs, Jews, black, white anyone, I get on well with just about anyone. It's just the Islamic faith I have a major problem with. My kids must never come home one day and tell me they've become Muslim, or I'll pack their bags and send them to the ME myself!
Judaism was also revealed around north africa to the middle east.
TheHiveMind
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The Europeans treat them like spoilt little children, so they act like spoilt little children.
Take off the gloves and treat them like responsible adults, don't give them any unearned favours, you are setting yourself up to be disrespected. They like authority, they like boundaries, they need rules, it is how they were brought up.
Patriotism in Britain is frowned upon (an attempt at destroying nationalism). Displaying the union jack or the English flag is frowned upon. Don't expect anyone to want to be British first, when the government tells everyone, over and over, that they shouldn't want to be British at all. Nationalism right now is swinging back, can't say I'm surprised, if I was nationalism I would be swinging back too.
Take off the gloves and treat them like responsible adults, don't give them any unearned favours, you are setting yourself up to be disrespected. They like authority, they like boundaries, they need rules, it is how they were brought up.
Patriotism in Britain is frowned upon (an attempt at destroying nationalism). Displaying the union jack or the English flag is frowned upon. Don't expect anyone to want to be British first, when the government tells everyone, over and over, that they shouldn't want to be British at all. Nationalism right now is swinging back, can't say I'm surprised, if I was nationalism I would be swinging back too.
Interesting point brought up by Mark Steyn. When the left infested the education system young immigrants were taught how evil Britain was, colonising, exploiting, enslaving and mass murdering in their homelands. Now these morons wonder why immigrants, their heads filled with that crap, don't want to integrate, have a persecution complex, demand hand outs and are so hostile.
Mineer
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Just a small note Malcom X did not create the nation of Islam movement and left the movement after going to a going on haj / holy pilgrimage to Mecca, he has described his previous position with the Nation of Islam as that of a "zombie".
but agree Nation of Islam is a crackpot movement
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etienne_marais
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Naughty, naughty spoiled children, go back to your government sponsored residence and think about what you did.
thestaggy
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Let's ignore the elephant in the room.
Like the rest of Europe, Britain is cucked. They've allowed themselves to be subverted by an ungrateful guest. Instead of saying ''you are welcome, but do as we do'', they have let these folks carry on behaving as if they are still in the stoneage countries from which they fled and then wonder why they have the same issues those hellholes have. Good luck telling Americans that they cannot embrace who they are because it offends others. The election of their current president is in many cases a response to this type self-defeating mindset.
In 2013, 16 Muslims got a UK town of 5,500 to stop flying St. George's Cross because it offended them. I'd imagine that telling a town of 5,500 rural Americans to take their Confederate flag or The Stars and Stripes down would end up with a bit of a rude response.
Like the rest of Europe, Britain is cucked. They've allowed themselves to be subverted by an ungrateful guest. Instead of saying ''you are welcome, but do as we do'', they have let these folks carry on behaving as if they are still in the stoneage countries from which they fled and then wonder why they have the same issues those hellholes have. Good luck telling Americans that they cannot embrace who they are because it offends others. The election of their current president is in many cases a response to this type self-defeating mindset.
In 2013, 16 Muslims got a UK town of 5,500 to stop flying St. George's Cross because it offended them. I'd imagine that telling a town of 5,500 rural Americans to take their Confederate flag or The Stars and Stripes down would end up with a bit of a rude response.
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The_Assimilator
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Now that's some impressive thread necromancy.