Why Microsoft should rethink Windows 8

Windows 8 is okay. I only have it because of Microsoft letting anyone take advantage of the R125 upgrade at launch. I bought Start8 and configured my system to boot to desktop. It's basically a slightly improved Windows 7 now, which is a good thing.

The Modern UI is a total joke. Every single person I know with Windows 8 uses Start8 and avoids the Modern UI. Almost all the apps are terrible, the store sucks, the appearance is cluttered, the desktop environment is isolated, options are too out of the way, navigation is a chore with a mouse, shutting down is a mission etc.

Microsoft wasted so much development time on that stupid UI it's not even funny.
 
They will have to learn eventually. You can b1tch and moan as much as you like, metro is here to stay. In a few years im sure people will be asking "what was that whole windows 8 sucks thing again?"
 
crysis said:
They will have to learn eventually. You can b1tch and moan as much as you like, metro is here to stay. In a few years im sure people will be asking "what was that whole windows 8 sucks thing again?"
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Yeah, just like happened with Windows Me and Vista! ;)
 
kilobits said:
Uhm... I have found the opposite... people and family I deal with are all adapting to Windows 8 without issues. This includes 60 year old granny and 10 year old nephew. They are all emailing and internetting and skyping and gaming and everything just as before. Windows 7 has been upgraded and now it is just the Mac users and their bootcamp Windows 7 remaining.

Even the older Core2Duo systems have had zero issue Windows 8 upgrades and are being used without any hassles. I have installed a start button replacement on my system, but all the rest using the what-was-called-metro screen.

No complaints. Zero issues.

Just works.
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Then you fail and it's not Win 8.
 
biometrics said:
Then you fail and it's not Win 8.
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OK so nobody must use anything not supplied by Microsoft with their OS at all, as soon as you install anything you fail and pollute their OS.

:D

Ballmer purist you.
 
kilobits said:
OK so nobody must use anything not supplied by Microsoft with their OS at all, as soon as you install anything you fail and pollute their OS.

:D

Ballmer purist you.
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You install apps to convert Win 8 into Win 7. :erm:
 
biometrics said:
You install apps to convert Win 8 into Win 7. :erm:
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Heheheh... trollbait.

Uhm, there is slighter more than lets-not-call-it-metro to Windows 8.
Adding a start button does not convert 8 into 7.
I also use Rocket Dock, Direct Folders, Taskbar Tweaker, Network Indicator amongst others and have done since 7. There is no "learning curve"... am am using Windows 8 as I choose to use it... if Windows 7 was as resource efficient I guess I would still be using it.

I am sure we all use stock ROMS on our phones and standard launchers.
 
noxibox said:
Unfortunately for them I don't think Windows 1.0 is coming back. Or are they all still on DOS, not being able or willing to learn anything new? They can't even be using Windows 7 because Microsoft made major changes in the interface between XP and Vista/Windows 7. And you know, they just refuse to learn anything new.
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If you are not of geeky disposition, why would you be wanting to learn something new? For no good reason?

Microsoft needs to remember that when you force people to make drastic changes to how they do things, the change they choose may just not be the one you want.
 
kilobits said:
Heheheh... trollbait.

Uhm, there is slighter more than lets-not-call-it-metro to Windows 8.
Adding a start button does not convert 8 into 7.
I also use Rocket Dock, Direct Folders, Taskbar Tweaker, Network Indicator amongst others and have done since 7. There is no "learning curve"... am am using Windows 8 as I choose to use it... if Windows 7 was as resource efficient I guess I would still be using it.

I am sure we all use stock ROMS on our phones and standard launchers.
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You have data to prove this?

So the Metro process is not using any resources?
 
biometrics said:
You have data to prove this?

So the Metro process is not using any resources?
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Older hardware is given a new lease of life with Windows 8. Old Turion and C2D notebooks with 1GB RAM are usable again... more responsive than Windows 7 they were upgraded from.

I really am not encountering any resistance from family, friends etc to Windows 8. These people are coping with it just fine, on new and ancient hardware, every day... and all without the Windows 7 transformation button.

Heck, if my 8 year old nephew can figure out all by himself that the Window key on the keyboard can be used to "get out" of a not-allowed-to-call-it-metro app... what is the issue ? The Window key has been part of Windows keyboards since, well, forever nearly. Granny can use it... and she does.

If you prefer Windows 7 use it. If Windows 8 works for you, then use it.
 
biometrics said:
It's not the Microsoft way. You're cheating. Calling Win 8 better than 7 is ridiculous then.
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Not the Microsoft way... Lol. Microsoft is not my religion. I bought Windows 8 because of the lack of security for the R125 upgrade when it launched. I can use the Modern UI, I just don't like it. With Start8, Windows 8 is an improvement over Windows 7, so I'm happy. Considering that Start8 only costs $4 if you wait for the discount code a week into the trial, that there are free alternatives and that not everyone even cares for the start button, there's nothing wrong with saying 8 is better than 7.

As for whether Windows 8 is as good as it should be; that's another question.
 
kilobits said:
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Older hardware is given a new lease of life with Windows 8. Old Turion and C2D notebooks with 1GB RAM are usable again... more responsive than Windows 7 they were upgraded from.

I really am not encountering any resistance from family, friends etc to Windows 8. These people are coping with it just fine, on new and ancient hardware, every day... and all without the Windows 7 transformation button.

Heck, if my 8 year old nephew can figure out all by himself that the Window key on the keyboard can be used to "get out" of a not-allowed-to-call-it-metro app... what is the issue ? The Window key has been part of Windows keyboards since, well, forever nearly. Granny can use it... and she does.

If you prefer Windows 7 use it. If Windows 8 works for you, then use it.
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Finally a worthy post.

My 8 year old boy and 2 teenaged girls had no issue working Win8 when I upgraded them a few weeks back. They have some quite funky sidebar setups too. They seem to have grasped it pretty quickly.
 
biometrics said:
Kinda my point. But don't call the one better than the other.
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Better is a subjective comparison.

Well, if I see a duck that walks like a duck and clucks like a duck, I am inclined to call it a duck.

If a laptop seems to perform better on Windows 8 than it did on Windows 7, and noticeably so... then I kinda draw a similar conclusion to the old duck analogy.

"Metro" is a part of Windows 8... it is not Windows 8.

There are others that perhaps have a lame duck and are calling it so... for these there is 7.
 
kilobits said:
Better is a subjective comparison.

Well, if I see a duck that walks like a duck and clucks like a duck, I am inclined to call it a duck.

If a laptop seems to perform better on Windows 8 than it did on Windows 7, and noticeably so... then I kinda draw a similar conclusion to the old duck analogy.

"Metro" is a part of Windows 8... it is not Windows 8.

There are others that perhaps have a lame duck and are calling it so... for these there is 7.
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I found it slower.
 
My sister bought a very nice Toshiba Laptop over the Christmas holidays.

She took one look at metro and said "Get rid of it!"

I dutifully installed Start8, tweeked the registry to boot straight to desktop and disabled charms.

When she got back to SA she got a good deal on Win 7 and had someone install it.

I have no doubt that if MS offered and official way to disable the crap that is metro/modern whatever then I would contemplate upgrading my laptop (I never liked Aero anyway), but I refuse to buy something that is broken by design.

If I wanted a mobile UI on my PC I'd install Android X86 (in a fracking WM)
 
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