Why the cloud cannot obscure the scientific method

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A rebuttal to the conversation in this thread: http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=124565

Every so often, someone (generally not a practicing scientist) suggests that it's time to replace science with something better. The desire often seems to be a product of either an exaggerated sense of the potential of new approaches, or a lack of understanding of what's actually going on in the world of science. This week's version, which comes courtesy of Chris Anderson, the Editor-in-Chief of Wired, manages to combine both of these features in suggesting that the advent of a cloud of scientific data may free us from the need to use the standard scientific method.

It's easy to see what has Anderson enthused. Modern scientific data sets are increasingly large, comprehensive, and electronic. Things like genome sequences tell us all there is to know about the DNA present in an organism's cells, while DNA chip experiments can determine every gene that's expressed by that cell. That data's also publicly available—out in the cloud, in the current parlance—and it's being mined successfully. That mining extends beyond traditional biological data, too, as projects like WikiProteins are also drawing on text-mining of the electronic scientific literature to suggest connections among biological activities.

There is a lot to like about these trends, and little reason not to be enthused about them. They hold the potential to suggest new avenues of research that scientists wouldn't have identified based on their own analysis of the data. But Anderson appears to take the position that the new research part of the equation has become superfluous; simply having a good algorithm that recognizes the correlation is enough.

The source of this flight of fancy was apparently a quote by Google's research director, who repurposed a cliché that most scientists are aware of: "All models are wrong, and increasingly you can succeed without them." And Google clearly has. It doesn't need to develop a theory as to why a given pattern of links can serve as an indication of valuable information; all it needs to know is that an algorithm that recognizes specific link patterns satisfies its users. Anderson's argument distills down to the suggestion that science can operate on the same level—mechanisms, models, and theories are all dispensable as long as something can pick the correlations out of masses of data.

Read more... http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/pos...oud-cannot-obscure-the-scientific-method.html
 
Nice post, i do think he should have metioned in this article that the "google" type of mechanisms are making science speed up a bit in the research field :)

Also this technology is still very young so I think it might still evolve into a much more usefull tool to understanding a lot of things :)
 
Just read it. Cool article.

I must say I understood the theme of the Wired article differently though, I got the impression that the writer meant that theory could be adapted quicker and more accurately than traditional levels allow by looking for certain patterns in the data that hint to ideas that wasn't thought of before with formulas and machines instead of a human being pondering things over. Actual people can then comb through and interpret and accept of discard the results.

A new theory can be developed or changes can be made to the previous one. Isn't that what scientists do anyway?

I didn't get the sense that Wired suggested throwing theory in the bin and for scientist to start Googling instead of thinking.
 
I can see how a hypothesis might be developed online, but to alter a Scientific theory is too much of a leap. To change a theory you need to have observations, experiments and they must be peer reviewed and the experiments must be approved etc. People through around the word Theory to loosely here.
 
"Anderson's argument distills down to the suggestion that science can operate on the same level—mechanisms, models, and theories are all dispensable as long as something can pick the correlations out of masses of data."

Developing something that can "pick" such correlations requires such models and theories in the first place. :rolleyes:

Also, the advancement of science relies heavily on understanding the mechanisms of different systems, from these theories are developed and systems are improved or new one's are invented. Structured thinking and structured processes guarantees progress or at least practical application of concepts that would be otherwise be meaningless.

This says it better,

"Correlations are a way of catching a scientist's attention, but the models and mechanisms that explain them are how we make the predictions that not only advance science, but generate practical applications."
 
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