Will I be able to get FTTH over DFA?

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After struggling a lot I have finally got a go-ahead for the DFA to install a fiber line to only my house, but before I do this I want to know will I still be able to acquire an FTTH account from ISPs who have service on the DFA network even though their coverage might still show no coverage?
 

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After struggling a lot I have finally got a go-ahead for the DFA to install a fiber line to only my house, but before I do this I want to know will I still be able to acquire an FTTH account from ISPs who have service on the DFA network even though their coverage might still show no coverage?
That could end up being very expensive, depending on the ISP
 

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That could end up being very expensive, depending on the ISP
How so? Why can't they just activate an FTTH account on the line I will have, if they already give service on the DFA to other customers with the same type of line, just in areas with coverage?
 

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How so? Why can't they just activate an FTTH account on the line I will have, if they already give service on the DFA?
Wait, sorry I read wrong. I know in many cases the ISPs end up installing the fibre to the home. You saying Dark Fibre has already hooked up your home with Fibre?
 

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I had the same conversation about DFA, the ISP ended up wanting to charge me over 50k a month for a 100/100 meg line while i was doing some research around it. waited about 2 months for Vumatel to install.
 

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DFA delivers two products to ISPs; dark fibre and more recently, managed leased line. Remember, DFA isn't an ISP, they do not deal with end users. Each circuit is a dedicated fibre pair from a DFA pop and it's not shared between multiple premises like an FTTH installation. In addition, a DFA build is slightly more complex than an FTTH build, as every DFA link has an SLA (99.5% uptime and 4hr Mean Time to Repair), so it's in their interest to build it not to break. This is why we use them for businesses - you can rely on the quality, uptime and maintenance. That being said, if you're ok paying for a business line, you will get a premium service to your home.

But no, you cannot run an FTTH service on a leased line; or more-so, you wouldn't benefit cost wise from a contended L3 service over a premium dedicated link, as the access port cost per line is the majority of what you pay anyway.

How so? Why can't they just activate an FTTH account on the line I will have, if they already give service on the DFA to other customers with the same type of line, just in areas with coverage?

Unfortunately FTTH is an entirely different product to a leased line; it's not their model or feasible within their network design. Yes, it's a fibre, but no the network is not designed the same way.
 

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After struggling a lot I have finally got a go-ahead for the DFA to install a fiber line to only my house, but before I do this I want to know will I still be able to acquire an FTTH account from ISPs who have service on the DFA network even though their coverage might still show no coverage?
The short answer is no.
 

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DFA delivers two products to ISPs; dark fibre and more recently, managed leased line. Remember, DFA isn't an ISP, they do not deal with end users. Each circuit is a dedicated fibre pair from a DFA pop and it's not shared between multiple premises like an FTTH installation. In addition, a DFA build is slightly more complex than an FTTH build, as every DFA link has an SLA (99.5% uptime and 4hr Mean Time to Repair), so it's in their interest to build it not to break. This is why we use them for businesses - you can rely on the quality, uptime and maintenance. That being said, if you're ok paying for a business line, you will get a premium service to your home.

But no, you cannot run an FTTH service on a leased line; or more-so, you wouldn't benefit cost wise from a contended L3 service over a premium dedicated link, as the access port cost per line is the majority of what you pay anyway.



Unfortunately FTTH is an entirely different product to a leased line; it's not their model or feasible within their network design. Yes, it's a fibre, but no the network is not designed the same way.
This was the answer I was looking for! I bet you if Fibre was more expensive than ADSL for the end user, coverage would have been 10 times better than it is now sad to say...
 

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One of the few 3rd party ISP's which installs FTTH (off the DFA link) is SADV (SA Digital Villages). Good luck with that
 

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I have a DFA manhole right next to my boundary wall, and SADV's site says there is coverage, dependent on a feasibility study, in other words, how many other people are interested. I am unable to get a line from them. They are not willing (or able, possibly due to required wayleaf) to connect me up, though my boundary wall is about 2 meters from the manhole.

Now the area is being trenched by Octotel. Hoping to get fiber from them.
 

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I have a DFA manhole right next to my boundary wall, and SADV's site says there is coverage, dependent on a feasibility study, in other words, how many other people are interested. I am unable to get a line from them. They are not willing (or able, possibly due to required wayleaf) to connect me up, though my boundary wall is about 2 meters from the manhole.

Now the area is being trenched by Octotel. Hoping to get fiber from them.
How do know which companies the fibre belongs to? There's been several different Fibre lines install along the servitude couple hundred metres, thus far only managed to identify one company, which was Link Africa and they only do Business lines.
 

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How do know which companies the fibre belongs to? There's been several different Fibre lines install along the servitude couple hundred metres, thus far only managed to identify one company, which was Link Africa and they only do Business lines.

There are 3 manholes next to each other at the corner of my property. Logos are stamped into the covers, one for DFA, one for MTN and one for CoCT.
 
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