Will private power generation facilities save the day?

Will private power generation facilities be enough to put an end to load shedding?

  • Yes - say goodbye to loadshedding

    Votes: 39 19.3%

  • They will help, but not enough to end it

    Votes: 138 68.3%

  • No - they won't make a difference

    Votes: 15 7.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 10 5.0%
  • Total voters
    202
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Electricity is a basic resource(Man Made) meaning its literally involved in everything, even the digital bubble, so if any leadership ideals, etopia's or decissions fail and cause price hikes over time, we are screwed, same with water and fuel and food. Basic resources you dont have a choice if money is tight, you cannot just ignore it.

It will help on an individual basis future costs maybe my concern, but the whole nation, no don't see that today.
 
Other than the public being told that it would via MSM mouthpieces, I doubt whether it will make any difference.

They'll have to arrest and prosecute the ANC looters, first, unfortunately. I'm not sure how solar and wind power will achieve that.
 
Give this a listen. Good approach. Pity it wouldn't work here. Needs actual intelligence.

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Couple of years old, but still very relevant.
 
It could, but I do not think it will due to the requirement for those providers to first get approval from a municipality to feed back into the grid. This would cut the municipal income so they will never approve them and tie these generation projects up in red tape for years destroying investment into them. They have once again put the person with the biggest incentive to sink this project in charge of being the final approver of it.

I wonder if they will next put taxi bosses in charge of approving bus routes.

The only generation I see happening are entirely for self generation which will help some. Mines generating their own power for instance reducing demand on the grid perhaps.
 
Funny how we're coming full circle.

Soon the mining companies realised that steam-generated power was inadequate for their needs and they joined forces to build small power stations to supplement the existing supply. In 1906 these smaller undertakings were bought out by the Victoria Falls Power Company (VFP) as the mining bosses sought large centralised power stations as opposed to small dedicated ones.
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Meanwhile, in 1910, the Transvaal Colonial Government, realising the strategic importance of electricity, passed The Power Act. This piece of legislation defined electricity as a public service, and gave the government the power to expropriate private electricity undertakings after a period of 35 years.
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Established 1923
www.eskom.co.za

So the economies of scale are bound to bring the small independent generators together eventually... and then the government takes the lot. But maybe that's 10-20 years away as we swing towards decentralisation for the time being.
 
Yes, eventually loadshedding will end. It will still take time to reach that point though. I'm hopeful that by 2025 loadshedding will be a thing of the past, give or take a couple of years
 
This is a bandage over the gunshot wound. The bullet, which is the ANC and their communist policy, is still there.

Only thing that will fix SA's power situation will be a complete decentralisation and privatisation of it. Consumers need to have the choice as to who they buy electricity from and when. Only function that I can see for Eskom would be to provide the transmission infrastructure.
 
bwana said:
Will amended regulations exempting generation projects up to 100MW from the NERSA licensing requirements be enough to put an end to load shedding going forward?
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The point is every business able to do so, will be better off, deloading the grid, causing them to raise prices of whatever they offer, which in turn will cause Eskom to get less income which will cause them to apply for and push up their prices which piss us all off. In the end this is just bad news.
 
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It all depends on the values and the integrity of the providers. If they are motivated by power and greed, it might benefit society at first, and no one will question the motives driving them. They will create illusion and believe that the flock will eagerly support without question. They will market themselves to be the saviours and inflate the benefits of their propositions. And for a while, it will hold true. Unfortunately selfishness and greed will start to surface, in small, unnoticable ways at first. And people will cast blame on the economy or other factors that can provide any explanation, however unlikely, so that they won't have to admit that their blind faith and idealism in fancy marketing campaigns wasn't the best choice, but rather the easy choice.

If a private provider is motivated solely by serving society in the best way possible and making the highest possible profits is of little or no priority. Then it can, and will be beneficial to privatise. long term sustainability and prosperity of the people and the country, and the economy can only be achieved in this manner.
 
Even though they have literally run ESKOM into the frikken ground they still not willing to give up their monopoly.
Why limit companies to 100MW.
 
chrisc said:
Not immediately no, that is impossible. It takes time to build the infrastructure, but is more than a step in the right direction

I still cannot figure out why minister Mantashe was so against it? You might think he relishes holding the country back
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Frikken idiots in charge. Unbelievable.
 
konfab said:
This is a bandage over the gunshot wound. The bullet, which is the ANC and their communist policy, is still there.

Only thing that will fix SA's power situation will be a complete decentralisation and privatisation of it. Consumers need to have the choice as to who they buy electricity from and when. Only function that I can see for Eskom would be to provide the transmission infrastructure.
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Look at how that worked out for Texas in February
 
Lupus said:
For the ones generating the power yes.
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Exactly. My worry is that Eskom's available capacity will just continue to decline as it has been for years.

The only bittersweet thing so far was that the economy shrank and with that demand went down masking the problem that available MW's have just been declining for years!

Getting these high-use consumers off the grid with private power and alongside it the decline of Eskom capacity continues eventually the average consumer will again exceed Eskom's available capacity.
 
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