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Will regional restrictions or mini lockdowns work?
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LazyLion
King of de Jungle
NOTHING will work unless people get serious about masks, hand washing and social distancing.
Those are the key things....
Those are the key things....
TheMightyQuin
Not amused...
A 22:00 curfew for SA's Covid-19 hotspots and new booze restrictions, NCCC recommends
A 22:00 curfew for SA's Covid-19 hotspots and new booze restrictions, NCCC recommends | News24
The NCCC has agreed that there should be a 22:00 curfew in Covid-19 hotspot areas across the country, that alcohol sales should be restricted, and that pubs and taverns should be shut at 21:00, News24 understands from impeccable sources close to the discussions.
www.news24.com
Here we go...
Olddude
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The main purpose of the lockdown was to delay Covid so that the hospitals were not overloaded. The hospitals are now prepared. i.e - NO general or area lockdown on movements.
The only way to control the spread is to enforce social distancing and mask wearing at those points where there are hot-spots. Large gatherings/parties/funerals are a "no-no", but are those "Lockdown" or just "Restrictions".
Stopping persons going to work is not the solution as breadwinners can't earn a living. Taxi's are a problem but with masks, entry control (temperatures) and sanitizing, spread can be minimized.
The only way to control the spread is to enforce social distancing and mask wearing at those points where there are hot-spots. Large gatherings/parties/funerals are a "no-no", but are those "Lockdown" or just "Restrictions".
Stopping persons going to work is not the solution as breadwinners can't earn a living. Taxi's are a problem but with masks, entry control (temperatures) and sanitizing, spread can be minimized.
thatdamnJoe
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It clearly has the potential to be worse than bad flu periods. Can easily be seen by the extent hospitals can and have been overwhelmed. If it was "normal" hospitals would have coped(First world examples of this).
When you say lockdowns don't work, you are correct in that they don't stop the spread, they only slow it down, But that's is also its purpose, only to flatten the curve, not avoid it.
The Eastern Cape is in trouble, the healthcare system already cant cope, even in good times so this is a disaster for them.
No it won't.
1. We as the people (The ones Ramaphosa said to: "It's now in your hands) Don't obey the law.
2. The ones who have to enforce the law don't enforce the law.
Speaking off, I will be flying down to Cape town this weekend for some partying, please recommend some spots for me. Safe, from crime, not worried about corona safety.
1. We as the people (The ones Ramaphosa said to: "It's now in your hands) Don't obey the law.
2. The ones who have to enforce the law don't enforce the law.
Speaking off, I will be flying down to Cape town this weekend for some partying, please recommend some spots for me. Safe, from crime, not worried about corona safety.
DrHasntLost
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The Question is "Do Lock Downs Work"...?
No, No, and No...!
Otherwise there wouldn't be a "Second Wave", "Resurgence" etc etc.
As Any Level Headed Dr will tell you, This Virus is like all other viruses, and will be attended to by your own immune system.
The Knee Jerk reaction has been appalling by the Media , who have obviously jumped at the chance to Blow this "cold/flu" issue completely out of proportion ,to severity of the situation.
Every year, Month, week,day , people die due to lack of Breath.
Depending on their life Habits and General health regimene .
If you have not abused your Body, too badly, during your life time, your own immune system with protect you from harm, having produced Anti Bodies and immunity within your system.
As in All life forms, the Fittest survive, and the weakest are eradicated by Natural Selection.
Or as the Government aptly puts it "Underlying Medical Conditions"
What I am concerned with, is the "Accountants" system of portraying the Virus ,to suite their agenda....!
They Do Not give us "Transparent figures"
As stated people are dying every day. But they don't give us the Annual Fatalities from the last 10 yrs.
And break down the Cause. i.e. Heart Attack, Cancer, Diabetes, old age ,etc
What they give us are "Scaremongering % increases"
The comment lately, is, " 63% increase in cases , since September.
That means Nothing.....!
How many cases were there in September.? How many died.? How many Died from the Virus ,compared to other causes. ?
21,600 deaths from population of 59,000,000 in 9 months is 0.036%
So you tell me, what is the issue...? Give us the right figures, and we will work it out.
No, No, and No...!
Otherwise there wouldn't be a "Second Wave", "Resurgence" etc etc.
As Any Level Headed Dr will tell you, This Virus is like all other viruses, and will be attended to by your own immune system.
The Knee Jerk reaction has been appalling by the Media , who have obviously jumped at the chance to Blow this "cold/flu" issue completely out of proportion ,to severity of the situation.
Every year, Month, week,day , people die due to lack of Breath.
Depending on their life Habits and General health regimene .
If you have not abused your Body, too badly, during your life time, your own immune system with protect you from harm, having produced Anti Bodies and immunity within your system.
As in All life forms, the Fittest survive, and the weakest are eradicated by Natural Selection.
Or as the Government aptly puts it "Underlying Medical Conditions"
What I am concerned with, is the "Accountants" system of portraying the Virus ,to suite their agenda....!
They Do Not give us "Transparent figures"
As stated people are dying every day. But they don't give us the Annual Fatalities from the last 10 yrs.
And break down the Cause. i.e. Heart Attack, Cancer, Diabetes, old age ,etc
What they give us are "Scaremongering % increases"
The comment lately, is, " 63% increase in cases , since September.
That means Nothing.....!
How many cases were there in September.? How many died.? How many Died from the Virus ,compared to other causes. ?
21,600 deaths from population of 59,000,000 in 9 months is 0.036%
So you tell me, what is the issue...? Give us the right figures, and we will work it out.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
You don't have any immunity against this yet.... no matter how "strong" your immune system is. It's never met this before.
People are getting out of hand again you see. Visiting family and friends as before lockdown. (they don't wear masks going to family.. and even if they walk in with a mask. the moment the first beer or coffee is served.. it's off and never goes on until they walk out)
People unfortunately think they are smart, they think only about Fun and Good Happy times and party. Think of themself only. Yes ideally we would like things to return to normal, no one wants to "Mommy or Daddy" you to say, you cannot have drinks or you cannot go out like someone that is sitting for detention or had their tv-games taken away.
Unfortunately, Government has to think for those who cannot or will not think for themself. This virus is a killer, we have over 21,500 dead in South Africa and it's going up daily. Now during Holiday Times and Xmas and December, co-workers and friends will be traveling and visiting family's and friends at various locations, Joburg, Cape Town, Durban, Limpopo, PE, Eastern Cape.
You cannot get the virus if you stand still (meaning keeping indoors, staying safe, wearing mask whenever you leave and sanitize every 30min to 1hour while in public).
It's the movement where the spread starts, going to big malls, standing in queue's, walking through crowds of people, more people handling your food, you touching things like escalators, desks and objects. The chance of getting it just increases(not guaranteed but chances are higher)
& as many others mentioned...No one has immunity.. and even if you had. 4months ago.. you could get covid again (if you had it in march/april/may or June)
Stay safe people, I know it sux. I'll rather do whats needed and be safe.
People unfortunately think they are smart, they think only about Fun and Good Happy times and party. Think of themself only. Yes ideally we would like things to return to normal, no one wants to "Mommy or Daddy" you to say, you cannot have drinks or you cannot go out like someone that is sitting for detention or had their tv-games taken away.
Unfortunately, Government has to think for those who cannot or will not think for themself. This virus is a killer, we have over 21,500 dead in South Africa and it's going up daily. Now during Holiday Times and Xmas and December, co-workers and friends will be traveling and visiting family's and friends at various locations, Joburg, Cape Town, Durban, Limpopo, PE, Eastern Cape.
You cannot get the virus if you stand still (meaning keeping indoors, staying safe, wearing mask whenever you leave and sanitize every 30min to 1hour while in public).
It's the movement where the spread starts, going to big malls, standing in queue's, walking through crowds of people, more people handling your food, you touching things like escalators, desks and objects. The chance of getting it just increases(not guaranteed but chances are higher)
& as many others mentioned...No one has immunity.. and even if you had. 4months ago.. you could get covid again (if you had it in march/april/may or June)
Stay safe people, I know it sux. I'll rather do whats needed and be safe.
dualmeister
Honorary Master
I never stopped visiting family during lockdown.
ShaunSA
Derailment Squad
Remember those pics of Alex during lockdown?
I'm just waiting two weeks for the bodies to be lining the streets. It's been a long few months but I'm sure those two weeks will be along any day now
In reality there are not 3 or 4 options.
There is only 2.
1. Yes you believe in lockdowns and it curbs the infection count.
2. You don't believe in lockdowns and believe covid is not very dangerous, and you want it to spread wild and merrily amongst everyone. Let nature take it's course and just pray you don't get it once or twice or thrice. Cause you can.
I personally have lost people to covid. It's not something to toy with.
I also know people that have had it twice (once at workplace, 2nd time from their brother visiting. I can tell you, he hasn't even properly recovered from the 1st time he got it. 5months later getting it again.. he is busy fighting it again and it's going ruff)
SPERUJ
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It Will Work If they have those lockdowns/restrictions Only in the areas with the highest number of Covid19 cases
Holidays are coming up - there's going to be a lot of migration between areas.
Genesistt
Well-Known Member
The only way any of this will work is if the rules set out are being enforced. It doesn't help regulations are being put in place and people are running rough shot all over them.
Malls have to enforce the mask rule. Restaurants HAVE to enforce the mask rule!
I mean, just this weekend I was walking through the Somerset Mall (which is actually very good at enforcing the rules for the most part) and people were sitting at the open air cafes in the centre of the walkways with no mask on. Like sitting at that table puts them in a safe bubble from the people milling about around them. The rule is you have your mask on unless you're eating or drinking. Not while you're perusing the menu or chatting.
I know it sucks! I'm already suffering with the mask on in the summer heat. But that's the rule and the rule is there to protect everyone.
And that's the other thing. The malls are getting crowded. Too many people crammed together with no social distancing. They need to set up rules or walkways or something to streamline how people move about in the malls.
I think we're in for a tense Christmas season. Especially if you live in a beach town!
Malls have to enforce the mask rule. Restaurants HAVE to enforce the mask rule!
I mean, just this weekend I was walking through the Somerset Mall (which is actually very good at enforcing the rules for the most part) and people were sitting at the open air cafes in the centre of the walkways with no mask on. Like sitting at that table puts them in a safe bubble from the people milling about around them. The rule is you have your mask on unless you're eating or drinking. Not while you're perusing the menu or chatting.
I know it sucks! I'm already suffering with the mask on in the summer heat. But that's the rule and the rule is there to protect everyone.
And that's the other thing. The malls are getting crowded. Too many people crammed together with no social distancing. They need to set up rules or walkways or something to streamline how people move about in the malls.
I think we're in for a tense Christmas season. Especially if you live in a beach town!
UK didn't listen either. then they got a 4week Hard lockdown "again". We want to prevent the hard-lockdowns as much as possible. No one wants to lose income or have anyone suffer financially more than we already have.
Yet people don't listen, they goto parties, Drink and be merry. As if this virus does not exist.
To be honnest, i think most people try their best to follow the rules, but you get the 5% or 10% that don't believe in rules or purposely want to break the rules to rebel against it. It's those few that have the mentality of "government don't tell me what i can or cannot do", "i do what i want, when i want to". unfortunately those causing major outbreaks and putting others at risk too.
No one is saying they intentionally want to cost people their lives, but those people don't realise it.. That by breaking the rules, no wearing a mask, or going to a party where things could get out of hand when intoxicated. You putting yourself and your family and friends at risk. You might not feel sick but you infect others. Maybe a colleague at work or a buddy coming for a quick visit 3days later. Or perhaps someone at the shops. Indirectly, spreading it..is a death sentence to someone else.