Wimax from Zinia

P.S @ Borrels, if you read the statment by codemaster properly you will see that a reseller contacted codemaster, not "Mr Zina". this is generally how sales companies get business, its called coldcalling
 
leigh26 said:
I believe the enquiry was if anyone has heard of Zina before, not whether they update thier website or whether they refer to the client base as "his".
I am from a company that uses wirelss solutions in IP surveillance and i have dealt with Zinia before. Warren provided excellent support and service. I believe that would answer your question, not these other random comments
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leigh26 said:
P.S @ Borrels, if you read the statment by codemaster properly you will see that a reseller contacted codemaster, not "Mr Zina". this is generally how sales companies get business, its called coldcalling
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Ahh, now there's the problem right there in bold! We are talking about Zinia, you are talking about some other company :p
 
leigh26 said:
I believe the enquiry was if anyone has heard of Zina before, not whether they update thier website or whether they refer to the client base as "his".
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Hi leigh26 - and welcome to MyBroadband...
Where threads change course and get derailed on a daily basis. :D
leigh26 said:
I am from a company that uses wirelss solutions in IP surveillance and i have dealt with Zinia before. Warren provided excellent support and service. I believe that would answer your question, not these other random comments
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Thank you for your comments. However we like to evaluate new providers on more than just the comment of a single customer.

An number of people (for example domonic) have extremely legitimate questions and it would be a really good idea for Warrenb to come and respond if he expects any support. The MyBroadband community is extremely picky :rolleyes:

I am also interested in which WiMax vendor Zinia is using for their base stations and at what frequency their base stations are running. :cool:
 
Hi Ambo,

I am glad to answer any serious questions about my company or clients.
I do however not have time to engage with petty conversation with people like deweyzeph.
I had a VANS licence which was reciently converted to an I-ECNS license which allows me to build WiFi and WiMax on open spectrum. I them have an agreement with a licenced spectrum holder to build network on there licence, which is not Telkom or Vodacom. We buy wholesale bandwidth on the backend and use the wireless network to aggregate the client connection to our backend. This allows us to compete against fixed line and offer a well priced stable business solution.
 
ambo said:
I believe that this practice is not legal?

/me scratches around in ICASA regulations...
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sure you have better things to do :)

there are no regulations on spectrum trading or sub-assignment - one would think that there should be which is why i would agree that it is not legal
 
dominic said:
sure you have better things to do :)

there are no regulations on spectrum trading or sub-assignment - one would think that there should be which is why i would agree that it is not legal
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So on the one hand you want to complain about spectrum not being used such as your "use it or lose it" quotations and on the other hand you complain when those Licencees that have it allow other ISP's to use it.

I think the real truth is that the ISP's who dont get the spectrum are chewing sour grapes and spitting out the seeds here.

Telkom, Sentech and Neotel are sitting on plenty of WiMAX spectrum and
I, for one, am delighted when the spectrum is allocated and, at least used, formally or not.
 
leigh26 said:
P.S @ Borrels, if you read the statment by codemaster properly you will see that a reseller contacted codemaster, not "Mr Zina". this is generally how sales companies get business, its called coldcalling
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So, are you implying that Zinia can say they do not appoint people to cold call for potential customers? I have a huge problem with this. If you appoint resellers, you take accountability for how they conduct their business 'cause they are using your company's name and product. Now, what I've experienced is that Company X appoints several resellers and each of these resellers phone you out of the blue. And if you ask not be called again, the specific reseller may or may not take you off their calling list but there are several other resellers phoning you and all of them say they can't take you off Company X's list because they 'are only one reseller'.

So Warrenb, care to give some insight as to where your company, or its resellers, get/buy consumers details?
 
Playoff said:
So on the one hand you want to complain about spectrum not being used such as your "use it or lose it" quotations and on the other hand you complain when those Licencees that have it allow other ISP's to use it.

I think the real truth is that the ISP's who dont get the spectrum are chewing sour grapes and spitting out the seeds here.

Telkom, Sentech and Neotel are sitting on plenty of WiMAX spectrum and
I, for one, am delighted when the spectrum is allocated and, at least used, formally or not.
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did you miss the quotations relating to the urgent need for introduction of a secondary market in spectrum? so yes - there is incredibly inefficient use of spectrum in many bands which needs to be dealt with and Sentech is probably the biggest offender in terms of access frequency and i believe this needs to be audited. But secondary trading must very obviously happen within a regulatory framework which is not present.

all power to screamer and zinia (if applicable) for making a plan and bringing competition into the market (i, like you, am delighted) but what SA really does not need is opaque dealing in a critical commons
 
dominic said:
did you miss the quotations relating to the urgent need for introduction of a secondary market in spectrum? so yes - there is incredibly inefficient use of spectrum in many bands which needs to be dealt with and Sentech is probably the biggest offender in terms of access frequency and i believe this needs to be audited. But secondary trading must very obviously happen within a regulatory framework which is not present.

all power to screamer and zinia (if applicable) for making a plan and bringing competition into the market (i, like you, am delighted) but what SA really does not need is opaque dealing in a critical commons
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In an ideal world our ideal regulatory parastatals would operate efficiently and we could all rely on them to make sure everyone plays fairly.

We are not living in an ideal world and our regulators are a joke which has resulted in the sad state of Telcom affairs we find ourselves in.

The more control we can take away from them the better and if there is a form of capitalism/favouritism creeping in that is providing TRUE competiton then I support it 100% untill such time as our idealistic world becomes reality.
 
Playoff said:
In an ideal world our ideal regulatory parastatals would operate efficiently and we could all rely on them to make sure everyone plays fairly.

We are not living in an ideal world and our regulators are a joke which has resulted in the sad state of Telcom affairs we find ourselves in.

The more control we can take away from them the better and if there is a form of capitalism/favouritism creeping in that is providing TRUE competiton then I support it 100% untill such time as our idealistic world becomes reality.
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which it never will ...

what you say makes a great deal of sense but i am not convinced that deals of this nature constitute true competition (they are exclusive and do not maximise efficient utilisation of the resource) or that they are desirable in the greater scheme of things
 
dominic said:
or that they are desirable in the greater scheme of things
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Never mind the fact that Sentech, as a government parastatal managed under the PFMA, would probably have to go to tender and follow due process if they were to "sublet" their spectrum.
 
TheRoDent said:
Never mind the fact that Sentech, as a government parastatal managed under the PFMA, would probably have to go to tender and follow due process if they were to "sublet" their spectrum.
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They can sublet property of theirs without going to tender so if they were going to sublet any of their other assets, such as spectrum for which I understand they pay an annual licence fee, why do they now all of a sudden have to follow some non-existent due process??
 
WiMAX

Hi, Just a word of caution, WiMAX technology operates in a licensed spectrum thus the only companies that are legally allowed to operate their own WiMAX platforms are companies that have a spectrum allocation from ICASA. As I understand there are 7 companies that have applied for spectrum from ICASA the likes of Vodacom, Neotel, Telkom, IS & IBurst are the main guys that have an operator’s license and thus are the main contenders for WiMAX. Any other company claiming to provide WiMAX is ither reselling a WiMAX from a Telco Operator or is misleading the public. As I understand Zinia utilizes a Mikrotik 5GHz platform that operates in the unlicensed spectrum however they may be reselling WiMAX from a telco who has a license but as they say about micro machines if it does not say micro machine it is not the real thing. So look out for a WiMAX certified sticker on any kit you may come across.
 
Think its a little unfair to flame the guy like this. They might be new,... some of the things said I am also cautious or even sceptical about,... but I welcome competition!

Zinia - Good luck with your endevours in the ISP market.

I'd be very cautious with statements that might not sound very 'liberal' or 'open source' as the market is very sensitive after we have all been repeatedly raped by our telcoms industry and its leaders.
 
Zania - Without a working website there is ZERO credibility to any claims in my books
 
i am quite familiar with zinia, what mr zinia says is true about their agreements, and i am all for creating competition, however, the way they do things is questionable and they are not as "independant" as they make out. while mr zinia may choose to ignore this as a "petty" remark, it is unfortunately the way of the world now where blog sites are quite important factors in marketing, petty or not one should not ignore certain things said about ones company. a glorified WOG with a SLA is not going to convince me that it is a reliable and professional service in whom i can trust my business critical communications. what sort of guarantees are there that these wimax connections are able to compete with the likes of vodacom etc.
 
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