Windows 10 editions revealed

[Wasabee!]

Did nobody notice this really interesting line? "...giving Xbox One owners the ability to play their Xbox One games from any Windows 10 PC in their home."

Has Microsoft finally ended the PC/Console war for ever, where all console gamers are now going to BE PC gamers too?

Oh the horror!

So now console gamers can upgrade for free?

/wink

 

[SauRoNZA]

Linux has even more versions of desktop than windows.

Not remotely the same.



Not from one company and not a commercial product offering either.

Also different desktop environments are all just window dressing for the same system.

Windows is offering different systems with the same window dressing.

 

[Swa]

Not remotely the same.



Not from one company and not a commercial product offering either.

Also different desktop environments are all just window dressing for the same system.

Windows is offering different systems with the same window dressing.

I would say it's the opposite. You get one fundamental system from MS except for the Enterprise edition. This then has different components activated depending on what you pay. Linux you get an edition for every use case. Doesn't matter if it's from different companies as it's still more confusing.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

They need it on as many boxes as possible since they now make their money through the Store and subscription services not the OS.

it's the same reason they are happy to give it away free to the pirates, as long as they don't need to support them, because they'll start buying from the store soon enough.

So you wont load apps the same way via dvd/download?

Will It be like ios and you got a closed ecosystem?
Or will it be a bit like the android play store, if you have the files you can still install?

Or is it a way to upgrade the vast majority of pc's all at once so the nsa can snoop on the entire planet?

 

[SauRoNZA]

So you wont load apps the same way via dvd/download?

Will It be like ios and you got a closed ecosystem?
Or will it be a bit like the android play store, if you have the files you can still install?

Or is it a way to upgrade the vast majority of pc's all at once so the nsa can snoop on the entire planet?

It's a closed system.

They'll push more and more people towards that instead of direct downloads as they make their cut in the middle and continuously.

OS makes them money only once.

 

[SauRoNZA]

I would say it's the opposite. You get one fundamental system from MS except for the Enterprise edition. This then has different components activated depending on what you pay. Linux you get an edition for every use case. Doesn't matter if it's from different companies as it's still more confusing.

You raise a good point, except the markets are very different for the two systems specifically BECAUSE of this, not despite it.

I feel a Home and Business edition should be enough and even that is unnecessary.

Hopefully they make changing between the two a simple thing and not a reinstall like it is now.

It makes BYOD a nightmare.

 

[CataclysmZA]

If I have a laptop running the crappy, non-pro version of 8.1, will I only get the upgrade to 10 Home or whatever, or do I need to upgrade 8.1 to Pro first to get 10 Pro?

You'll move to Windows 10 Home, of course. An existing Pro license will be required to move to Windows 10 Pro. The only benefit that Home and Pro users are getting out of this is that the single-language editions seem to be missing, so there's the possibility that they've been killed off altogether. This close to the launch in July, this information would have been made available already by the Windows team.

Also, if you're on Windows 8.1 with Bing, rejoice! You're getting an upgrade to Windows 10 Home, which changes the license on the device to a full one. If you're running a machine that has UEFI and Secure Boot, your product key embedded in the BIOS should be updated as well when you upgrade.

Guess who wont be upgrading till 2020

Guess who'll be upgraded to the latest version of Windows for free for the next five years.

There are good reasons to consider the move even though you're more comfortable to participate in making Windows 7 as much of a problem as Windows XP was.

I doubt my GTX460 will even support DirectX 12.

Edit, wiki says it will. But it will struggle like crazy.

It won't be any more difficult to run than Direct X11 currently. You will be able to run DX12 and play DX12 games because you have a Fermi card, but DX12_1 hardware level features will only be available to those running a Radeon R9 285 or any of the Maxwell cards currently available.

Are there any features you would need on a home PC that Win 10 Home edition does not have? I cannot find a list that shows the option, only what was posted in the article.

One of the options in the Pro lineup that was a help for home users was fully automated machine backups over the network. You had to use Windows Home Server to do it, but it also acted like a Time Machine device with volume shadow copy, it made streaming to Xbox 360 consoles easy and there were things like Remote Access Gateway that allowed you to remotely log into any machine on your network from anywhere else in the world. It also had software-driven drive redundancy, but it was through the ZFS-like Drive Extender software.

I also have the slight suspicion that only users who bought their copies of Windows 7 or 8 within 1 to 6 months ahead of the release will qualify for the free upgrade.

All existing copies of Windows 7 and 8/8.1 will have the update file to Windows 10 available through Windows Update once its launched. There's no discrimination according to when you purchased your license or whether your license is genuine or not.

Edit:

it's the same reason they are happy to give it away free to the pirates, as long as they don't need to support them, because they'll start buying from the store soon enough.

Just to note again, if your software license isn't genuine, you'll get the option to upgrade to Windows 10, but your license will still be non-genuine. You'll still need to purchase a new license for it if you do the upgrade, or crack it when the newer version of Daz Loader becomes available.

Did nobody notice this really interesting line? "...giving Xbox One owners the ability to play their Xbox One games from any Windows 10 PC in their home."

Has Microsoft finally ended the PC/Console war for ever, where all console gamers are now going to BE PC gamers too?

Its a streaming service just like Remote Play, only this time it works on multiple devices that are somehow hooked into your home network, unlike the PS4 only having the PS Vita and PS TV as destination clients for streaming.

So you wont load apps the same way via dvd/download?

Will It be like ios and you got a closed ecosystem?
Or will it be a bit like the android play store, if you have the files you can still install?

Or is it a way to upgrade the vast majority of pc's all at once so the nsa can snoop on the entire planet?

Applications and software can be loaded and run in the same way as before, because using the Windows Store is optional. If you're on Windows 10 Pro, sideloading of Store applications should be possible just like it is in Windows 8.1 Pro. Think of Windows Store apps as portable apps, that way you're less inclined to write them off because you're nervous about this "closed ecosystem" stuff.

As for the closed ecosystem, its only that way when you're working within the confines of the Windows Store, but Microsoft in no way is able to vet every application that goes through it, so there's even less quality control than in the Apple Store. They are trying to attract developers and publishers of desktop applications that use Win32 to get on to their store as well, which will only help the discoverability of their software.

I doubt the NSA has enough computing power to snoop the whole planet, let alone the storage space required for it. One state in the US is already an overload of information and there's currently no way they can actually look at data beforehand and use that to predict something happening like a school shooting or a major drug deal. Big Data is still really far too big to do anything useful with it in real-time.

 

[Toat]

Hopefully this won't be as 'smartphone app' based as 8 -.-

 

[SauRoNZA]

Just to note again, if your software license isn't genuine, you'll get the option to upgrade to Windows 10, but your license will still be non-genuine. You'll still need to purchase a new license for it if you do the upgrade, or crack it when the newer version of Daz Loader becomes available.

.

You won't need to crack it.

It will be non-genuine with a watermark that says as much but it will operate as per normal, you just can't phone Microsoft for help.

Not that anyone does.

Also it's still up in the air whether you'll get updates or not.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Hopefully this won't be as 'smartphone app' based as 8 -.-

Well that depends how you want to look at it.

All apps will now be universal meaning they'll have a Phone, Tablet and Desktop "mode" depending on which device you run them.

You also just need to buy them once.

 

[DA-LION-619]

Hopefully this won't be as 'smartphone app' based as 8 -.-

You know you could just download the TP...

 

[Sl8er]

Microsoft backtracks on free Windows 10 update for pirates

People running pirated copies of Windows are going to have to pay — or keep pirating — if they want to update their computers to Windows 10. That may sound painfully obvious, but there's actually been quite a bit of confusion up until now.

The confusion has revolved around Microsoft's offer to give free Windows 10 updates to people running Windows 7 and 8.1. In a statement last March, Windows chief Terry Myerson was reported to have said that the offer would extend to pirated copies, too. Microsoft quickly began issuing vague clarifications, while still implying that there would be a way to upgrade at no cost, even if pirates would be required to pay eventually. Now, we're finally getting a full clarification: there's no free upgrade at all. Pirates just have to pay.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/15/8613591/windows-10-no-free-upgrade-for-pirates

 

[Swa]

Hopefully this won't be as 'smartphone app' based as 8 -.-

There's separate versions for mobile like before so it shouldn't be if they learned anything from their previous one size fits none approach. There's no distinction between apps as they can run on either platform with the most appropriate interface if they support more than one. The OS interfaces should be different and that's the important part I guess you're wondering about.