Windows 10 slow after clean install

Idiosyncratic said:
So yesterday I did a clean install of Windows 10 (because of reasons...PC didn't sleep properly etc).
Anyway, I for one block MS IPs to stop my PC from phoning home - maybe keep this in mind. I installed Win10, it activated, I had it do updates (keeping in mind I blocked MS IPs after I updated), and proceeded with reinstalling my crap. So the issues I had before are gone, but I find the PC to be significantly more sluggish now than before - some programs suffering more than others. RAM usage is fine, and I have a 1 year old i7 processor so I doubt it's hardware related. Few things seem smooth (my animations and visual effects are on), and my typing lags at times. Good old Slack lags when scrolling, and the same can be said about Opera.

Any ideas as to why this can be?


Mods, please move this if it's in the wrong place, I see no windows discussion categories.
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Blocking IPs might have an effect on it. The next version of Windows coming next month will give you more control wrt privacy. You must update Windows 10 in two places: the store and the traditional Windows Update. After installing Windows and installing your crap you must wait for the index to rebuild and then trim your SSD/defrag HDD.

Downloading the new Windows 10 update ISO's are worthless since all updates are accumulative anyway just let the build in updater do it's thing. Give Edge a bash also I have Lastpass, Pocket and Ublock origin installed. Nothing more I really need.
 
backstreetboy said:
Blocking IPs might have an effect on it. The next version of Windows coming next month will give you more control wrt privacy. You must update Windows 10 in two places: the store and the traditional Windows Update. After installing Windows and installing your crap you must wait for the index to rebuild and then trim your SSD/defrag HDD.

Downloading the new Windows 10 update ISO's are worthless since all updates are accumulative anyway just let the build in updater do it's thing. Give Edge a bash also I have Lastpass, Pocket and Ublock origin installed. Nothing more I really need.
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Thing is, I had everything blocked before and it was fine. Now it's sluggish - surely a missing update or two (if that's the case), can't cause that?
 
backstreetboy said:
Blocking IPs might have an effect on it. The next version of Windows coming next month will give you more control wrt privacy. You must update Windows 10 in two places: the store and the traditional Windows Update. After installing Windows and installing your crap you must wait for the index to rebuild and then trim your SSD/defrag HDD.

Downloading the new Windows 10 update ISO's are worthless since all updates are accumulative anyway just let the build in updater do it's thing. Give Edge a bash also I have Lastpass, Pocket and Ublock origin installed. Nothing more I really need.
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Not so. The latest ISO is a very useful backup to have on hand and is the better way to go IF you are doing a clean install from scratch.
Otherwise WU is fine for getting all the normal updates.

And yes it is correct that one has to get Apps updates via the MS store option, BUT this depends on how you have set your setup to handle updates.

I control the update process very tightly (use Group Policy), not allowing WU to do updates while any other sw is running and while I am busy, and have specifically ensured that Apps Store updates are disabled and do not happen automatically, because of the negative effects these updates have on performance at times.

To do that you must ensure you are not signed in to your MS account (use a local account instead) and go and set your preferences for Store updates in the settings menu in MS store.

Yes there will be a new version of Windows released soon, and then one has to decide how to undertake that upgrade (not a normal update). You can leave WU to handle it OR, choose to do a routine clean install and re-install all other software via a clean install process. It really depends on how much time you want to allocate to computer maintenance (and the pain that goes with making the process complicated for yourself).
 
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Geoff.D said:
Yes there will be a new version of Windows released soon, and then one has to decide how to undertake that upgrade (not a normal update). You can leave WU to handle it OR, choose to do a routine clean install and re-install all other software via a clean install process. It really depends on how time you want to allocate to computer maintenance (and the pain that goes with making the process complicated for yourself).
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Wait, so should I maybe suffer for a few days longer and wait? When will the new version be released?
 
The "chatter" says "next month", but who knows ..... Last year the release was delayed for a marketing reason.

Difficult to put ourselves in your shoes. You started a process, it has apparently failed and you need to recover. Even if you want to now go the WU route, there will always be that nagging feeling that something is wrong with your install. (I know from personal experience).

I would probably do a clean install from scratch if I were in your shoes.

This one of the reasons why I joined a Windows 10 forum. To make sure I was "in on the chatter". And it has paid off for me. I have had peace and quiet ( relatively speaking) for 2 years now, knowing when and when not to do updates and what to expect.
 
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Holy smoke, so I backed up everything to my external HDD, shutdown the PC, and booted it up again without the HDD. Now it seems to run perfectly smooth? :wtf:
I don't get it? Nothing runs off it, I just store files on there.
 
Idiosyncratic said:
Heck, ok. Any lightweight alternatives? Isn't there a way to have it draw its drivers from an online database instead of having to download the entire database?
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Download the exe. It will then download the search database (11mb +-) then afterwards scan your pc for applicable hardware and only download those drivers... but all is useless anyway since Windows 10 will do it all automatically for you.
 
backstreetboy said:
Download the exe. It will then download the search database (11mb +-) then afterwards scan your pc for applicable hardware and only download those drivers... but all is useless anyway since Windows 10 will do it all automatically for you.
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And will replace drivers it (MS WIN 10) believes are not the latest even if they are the latest ....
 
Ok, so I'm doing a fresh install now, despite the fact the external HDD seemed to have been what caused Win to lose its mind. Driver issue?
 
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