Windows 10 Technical Preview - Insider Program

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Agreed, but my library supports such an edeavour, so I took the plunge.

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I'm still finding my feet, but there's a lot to like in Ubuntu 14.04. I might actually use Unity this time.

Wrong thread but... 14.04 is so old school. Be a man! 14.10! LOL enjoying Mint 17.1 more tbh. Unity me no likey.

Anyway, I hope my home pc stays stable for the time being, not really lus reinstalling the whole business.

And hopefully when the technical preview ends, windows keep on ticking
 

koeks525

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Wrong thread but... 14.04 is so old school. Be a man! 14.10! LOL enjoying Mint 17.1 more tbh. Unity me no likey.

Anyway, I hope my home pc stays stable for the time being, not really lus reinstalling the whole business.

And hopefully when the technical preview ends, windows keep on ticking

I should really get into using Linux... I keep wanting use it but I get confused in the thoughts of picking Mint or Ubuntu. Would love to do all my Software / Web Development activites on Linux :) ...

Wasn't Microsoft.NET going open source?
 
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I should really get into using Linux... I keep wanting use it but I get confused in the thoughts of picking Mint or Ubuntu. Would love to do all my Software / Web Development activites on Linux :) ...

Wasn't Microsoft.NET going open source?

Mint is basically ubuntu with a different desktop, so you should just go on look and feel when deciding between the two. But again, wrong thread :D
 

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Well, this ain't good...

Windows 10 may not play well with a another OS

With the new OS, Microsoft will no longer prevent OEM’s from permanently enabling “Secure Boot” on their personal computers, which could potentially mean that a lot of new laptops and even some OEM desktop builds might not allow users to install anything but the Windows 10, supplied by the manufacturer. This, of course means no dual booting, no Linux, no Hackintosh, basically no actual freedom to exploit the hardware you own and have paid for.
 

CataclysmZA

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GSM Arena is incorrect, though. What UEFI Secure Boot does is disallow unsigned or unauthorised code to run at boot before the main OS. This is to prevent boot loader viruses from landing on your hard drive, and they are difficult to remove.

What this means for other OSes is that they need to support Secure Boot and have their OS signed with Microsoft's key to allow it to work. Quite a few Linux distros have already gone through with this and only a few that don't support Secure Boot, like some versions of Arch, CentOS or Gentoo, will need you to jump through a few hoops to get it working.

At the end of the day, it deals a blow only to Hackintosh builds and older software like XP or outdated Linux distros. What Microsoft and the rest of the software industry wants is for more people to virtualise these old OSes and embrace Secure Boot to improve overall system security.
 

gregmcc

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Anyone having issues with wireshark. After the last update when I run wireshark I get there are no interfaces on which a capture can be done.

Tried removing wireshark and reinstalling - no go.
 

CataclysmZA

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How the F will you not be able to install another OS?

You can still install another OS, its just that Microsoft has dictated to OEMs that if they want to have machines shipping with Windows, they need to have support for Secure Boot in there to minimise any possible attack vectors that can be exploited by a virus or malware. The process of getting a particular Linux distribution to be signed with the key is free and relatively painless, though Microsoft does require testing to make sure that Secure Boot is properly supported. So instead of being able to install something like elementaryOS on whatever laptop you want, it might be the case that you're restricted to something like Ubuntu or Mint for the time being while the eOS devs get their distro supporting Secure Boot properly.

At the end of the day, this also greatly reduces the number of support calls that companies get on laptops that have had other versions of Windows, Linux, or sometimes OS X installed on them that the call centre staff aren't trained to deal with. I had a friend who worked for Acer South Africa, and they got about 100 support calls a day from people who had taken their new laptops and installed XP on them, expecting that everything would work just fine.
 

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I had a friend who worked for Acer South Africa, and they got about 100 support calls a day from people who had taken their new laptops and installed XP on them, expecting that everything would work just fine.

:wtf:

That says a lot about Windows 8/8.1

Why not Windows 7?
 

gregmcc

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Anyone using Genymotion - I Can't get it to work on the the latest Win10 build. Previous build worked fine.
 

CataclysmZA

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:wtf:

That says a lot about Windows 8/8.1

Why not Windows 7?

I'm not sure. Perhaps they have some need for XP that can't be run virtually, or their network management software requires it (NMBM I'm looking at you). But regardless, driver support for new hardware under XP is waning and I'll be only too happy to see it completely abandoned.

Anyone using Genymotion - I Can't get it to work on the the latest Win10 build. Previous build worked fine.

There are updates to the app manifest in this build, so things might be broken. Try running it as under Windows 8.1, or Windows 7.
 
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So I'm out of the windows 10 program for now. Just struggled too much with gaming. Back on windows 8.1
 

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I managed to get my spare laptop up and running. I see Build 10041 is avaialable as an ISO file download. Busy downloading that and will install it shortly... on the spare PC.

The main one is running Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit.
 

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The next Insider build for Phone is being released 10am tomorrow Pacific time. I'll be trying that on a Lumia 1520.
 
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