Windows 11 Support Thread

[UrBaN963]

Figured we could use a support thread for Windows 11.
Please keep opinions about Windows 11 to the other threads, this one is specifically for support, tips etc.

 

[UrBaN963]

For those using Windows 11:

Have any of you noticed memory-related issues? i seem to be having an issue with memory management, whereby after gaming for roughly an hour, I start to experience lower frames and poor system performance.

I've been playing some Ghost Recon Breakpoint (for about an hour) and now Warzone for maybe an hour and I'm sitting at 80% Memory usage (Warzone, Discord, Chrome running). Warzone usage is reported at 4,547MB. I have 16GB, and total memory usage is sitting at 12,5GB. this seems excessive for one Chrome, the game and discord. Nothign else is reported as using much memory.

Possible memory leak issues with the OS itself? Never had this issue with Windows 10.

 

[|tera|]

For those using Windows 11:

Have any of you noticed memory-related issues? i seem to be having an issue with memory management, whereby after gaming for roughly an hour, I start to experience lower frames and poor system performance.

I've been playing some Ghost Recon Breakpoint (for about an hour) and now Warzone for maybe an hour and I'm sitting at 80% Memory usage (Warzone, Discord, Chrome running). Warzone usage is reported at 4,547MB. I have 16GB, and total memory usage is sitting at 12,5GB. this seems excessive for one Chrome, the game and discord. Nothign else is reported as using much memory.

Possible memory leak issues with the OS itself? Never had this issue with Windows 10.

Standard procedure for proper Gaming is not to multi-task it. Whatever your resources may report. There's so much more going on in the back-end that effects the entire Game. It's not just Chrome (which is a culprit on its own), Discord or any other process or service.

It's not Windows related. It's user related

Games are intended to be a Full Screen Task. Not a Window to switch back forth to. Even Windowed Gaming is for convenience. Itself not intended for multitasking.

A process or service is not 'sandboxed' or a virtualized entity. Each process can communicate with any other process.

Just because you see explorer.exe and steam.exe and chrome.exe doesn't mean they can't 'talk' to each other.
It's called IPC.

Interprocess communications - Win32 apps

The Windows operating system provides mechanisms for facilitating communications and data sharing between applications. Collectively, the activities enabled by these mechanisms are called interprocess communications (IPC).

docs.microsoft.com

Inter Process Communication (IPC) in OS

This tutorial covers Inter process communication basics, approaches for IPC, terms used in IPC, Why you need to use IPC, and more.

www.guru99.com

You will never know what it thinks. Ever.
Close what you don't need. Especially when Gaming.

 

[carnagelan]

I have a amd Ryzen 3 3200g, 16gb ddr4 ram and more than enough hdd space. Windows insider tells me my pc is not compatible. Any reason why?

 

[|tera|]

I have a amd Ryzen 3 3200g, 16gb ddr4 ram and more than enough hdd space. Windows insider tells me my pc is not compatible. Any reason why?

Have you tried just installing it via ISO?
Download Windows 11 ISO. Mount it. Run Setup.

 

[UrBaN963]

Standard procedure for proper Gaming is not to multi-task it. Whatever your resources may report. There's so much more going on in the back-end that effects the entire Game. It's not just Chrome (which is a culprit on its own), Discord or any other process or service.

It's not Windows related. It's user related

Games are intended to be a Full Screen Task. Not a Window to switch back forth to. Even Windowed Gaming is for convenience. Itself not intended for multitasking.

A process or service is not 'sandboxed' or a virtualized entity. Each process can communicate with any other process.

Just because you see explorer.exe and steam.exe and chrome.exe doesn't mean they can't 'talk' to each other.
It's called IPC.

Interprocess communications - Win32 apps

The Windows operating system provides mechanisms for facilitating communications and data sharing between applications. Collectively, the activities enabled by these mechanisms are called interprocess communications (IPC).

docs.microsoft.com

Inter Process Communication (IPC) in OS

This tutorial covers Inter process communication basics, approaches for IPC, terms used in IPC, Why you need to use IPC, and more.

www.guru99.com

You will never know what it thinks. Ever.
Close what you don't need. Especially when Gaming.

Technically true and very applicable 15 years ago. These days multitaksing isn't an issue, especially with the increased cores and memory available to systems.

As I said, I never had this issue on Windows 10, I do have it on Windows 11. No change in hardware, so it isn't a hardware issue. It's a Windows-related issue.

 

[UrBaN963]

I have a amd Ryzen 3 3200g, 16gb ddr4 ram and more than enough hdd space. Windows insider tells me my pc is not compatible. Any reason why?

Does it tell you why it isn't compatible? My guess is you have TPM disabled in the BIOS. You'll find it under the Security tab in the BIOS - enable it, set it to TPM 2.0 and you should be good to go.

 

[|tera|]

Technically true and very applicable 15 years ago. These days multitaksing isn't an issue, especially with the increased cores and memory available to systems.

As I said, I never had this issue on Windows 10, I do have it on Windows 11. No change in hardware, so it isn't a hardware issue. It's a Windows-related issue.

You can't deduce that. As I said. There's many different aspects at play. It's far apart from resource usage, as you clearly see.

The types of Games you referenced weren't designed to be background tasks. However you spin it. Not even on your Quantum Rig in 2035.

 

[ArmatageShanks]

Microsoft gained a shite ton of publicity with the release and TPM queries blown up by the media, which I think was the primary goal as the added features and changes could easily just have been a win10 update.

 

[|tera|]

Microsoft gained a shite ton of publicity with the release and TPM queries blown up by the media, which I think was the primary goal as the added features and changes could easily just have been a win10 update.

Agree. TPM will break the deal for many current Windows users if it's a requirement in RTM.

I don't see any reason why the entire thing couldn't have been a build update. Marketing, brand, progression. Business. Causing useless unneeded headaches.

I'm not upgrading until RTM. Stability is more important to me.

 

[rambo919]

Microsoft gained a shite ton of publicity with the release and TPM queries blown up by the media, which I think was the primary goal as the added features and changes could easily just have been a win10 update.

Apparently the only real difference between 10 & 11 is hardware base optimization..... M$ just wants to forget older hardware exists the way they did with vista. Only this time the support window is MUCH smaller and that is going to backfire for them.

 

[JohnnyM]

Hi Everyone, I have just installed Windows 11 on my 10 year old Laptop. It does not support TPM 2.0 nor does it have Secure Boot. I found a workaround last night and installed this morning.
I updated from Window 10 and kept all my personal files and installed Software, Office 2019 etc, it worked seamlessly. The changes to the original ISO are approx One Mb and it takes seconds.
.

 

[UrBaN963]

You can't deduce that. As I said. There's many different aspects at play. It's far apart from resource usage, as you clearly see.

The types of Games you referenced weren't designed to be background tasks. However you spin it. Not even on your Quantum Rig in 2035.

You speak like a guy running a low-end rig who cannot conceive of the actual capabilities of modern hardware.

I can absolutely deduce that. You could call it deductive reasoning if you were so inclined.

My car is running fine.

I change the fuel pump.

My car is no longer running fine.

Do I assume it to be a blown gasket, flat tyre or damaged ECU? No. I assume it to be the replacement fuel pump.

 

[Ivan Leon]

This is what is 'supposed' to appear when you click on the Widgets icon on the taskbar:


However, when I DO click on it, this is all that appears - an opaque window with clickable areas (the cursor changes to the hand icon when you move it around there) - but NO info widgets data is visible.



Any ideas on whether this is just a 'technical' glitch or a bug? I have done the latest update to the latest W11 Insider Preview.

How Windows 11's New Widgets Work

Imagine tiny little apps that tell you the weather and stock prices. Sound familiar?

www.howtogeek.com

 

[UrBaN963]

This is what is 'supposed' to appear when you click on the Widgets icon on the taskbar:

View attachment 1108810
However, when I DO click on it, this is all that appears - an opaque window with clickable areas (the cursor changes to the hand icon when you move it around there) - but NO info widgets data is visible.

View attachment 1108812

Any ideas on whether this is just a 'technical' glitch or a bug? I have done the latest update to the latest W11 Insider Preview.

How Windows 11's New Widgets Work

Imagine tiny little apps that tell you the weather and stock prices. Sound familiar?

www.howtogeek.com

Not sure, it did work fine for me, though with a bit of a delay.

I've rolled back to Windows 10 though. Had a memory management issue of some sort, the PC would use all 16GB of RAM and then start paging like crazy. Performance was expectedly terrible when this happened.

Tarkov also suddenly refused to launch. Rolled back to Windows 10 and everything is working flawlessly.

I like Windows 11, but I'll wait until it's more stable and better supported.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

Hi Everyone, I have just installed Windows 11 on my 10 year old Laptop. It does not support TPM 2.0 nor does it have Secure Boot. I found a workaround last night and installed this morning.View attachment 1107518
I updated from Window 10 and kept all my personal files and installed Software, Office 2019 etc, it worked seamlessly. The changes to the original ISO are approx One Mb and it takes seconds.
View attachment 1107524.

/forwards illegal tpmer device id to ms.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

Standard procedure for proper Gaming is not to multi-task it. Whatever your resources may report. There's so much more going on in the back-end that effects the entire Game. It's not just Chrome (which is a culprit on its own), Discord or any other process or service.

It's not Windows related. It's user related

Games are intended to be a Full Screen Task. Not a Window to switch back forth to. Even Windowed Gaming is for convenience. Itself not intended for multitasking.

A process or service is not 'sandboxed' or a virtualized entity. Each process can communicate with any other process.

Just because you see explorer.exe and steam.exe and chrome.exe doesn't mean they can't 'talk' to each other.
It's called IPC.

Interprocess communications - Win32 apps

The Windows operating system provides mechanisms for facilitating communications and data sharing between applications. Collectively, the activities enabled by these mechanisms are called interprocess communications (IPC).

docs.microsoft.com

Inter Process Communication (IPC) in OS

This tutorial covers Inter process communication basics, approaches for IPC, terms used in IPC, Why you need to use IPC, and more.

www.guru99.com

You will never know what it thinks. Ever.
Close what you don't need. Especially when Gaming.

I use gamefire (paid) for this.

 

[Johnatan56]

For those using Windows 11:

Have any of you noticed memory-related issues? i seem to be having an issue with memory management, whereby after gaming for roughly an hour, I start to experience lower frames and poor system performance.

I've been playing some Ghost Recon Breakpoint (for about an hour) and now Warzone for maybe an hour and I'm sitting at 80% Memory usage (Warzone, Discord, Chrome running). Warzone usage is reported at 4,547MB. I have 16GB, and total memory usage is sitting at 12,5GB. this seems excessive for one Chrome, the game and discord. Nothign else is reported as using much memory.

Possible memory leak issues with the OS itself? Never had this issue with Windows 10.

What does your page file look like then? Task manager, memory, bottom left is says committed, cached, paged pool and non-paged pool.
Googling Ghost Recon, it seems that it does have a memory leak if using Vulkan, https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthre...st-Recon-Breakpoint-VULKAN-API-constant-CRASH
No changelog or anything about a fix.

I use gamefire (paid) for this.

That's not needed in a modern system, you're talking about a few MB of RAM, and most of the other stuff doesn't really matter, your PC will not be creating an index while you're gaming unless you just installed windows, windows defender scans generally only trigger on adding and opening new files, so shouldn't impact performance.

Those tools used to be useful when systems had in the few hundred MB of RAM, an intel graphics that shared memory and a 2C or something, not with modern 4/6/8 cores and 16GB+ RAM.

 

[RyanPCMR]

Thank you to the local first responders to Windows 11 out there! Will follow this thread to keep updated on any issues before I upgrade.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

That's not needed in a modern system, you're talking about a few MB of RAM, and most of the other stuff doesn't really matter, your PC will not be creating an index while you're gaming unless you just installed windows, windows defender scans generally only trigger on adding and opening new files, so shouldn't impact performance.

Those tools used to be useful when systems had in the few hundred MB of RAM, an intel graphics that shared memory and a 2C or something, not with modern 4/6/8 cores and 16GB+ RAM.

I'll take donations to modernize my three current potatoes.