Windows 11 Support Thread

Johnatan56

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I'll take donations to modernize my three current potatoes.
If W10, you can just run game mode instead in settings, would only recommend for toasters as potatoes shouldn't play games (they should be used for super computers instead). :p
(Settings > Gaming > Game Mode > Enable, it disables W10 updates in the background and gives full screen apps priority to all resources, this includes that it will force e.g. background YT videos to pause usually)

Windows 11 looks interesting in terms of the new window snapping (I have power toys though) and direct storage, once the latter starts getting adapted properly I might move, but will first wait for local accounts to work correctly, do not want a MS account.
 

UrBaN963

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What does your page file look like then? Task manager, memory, bottom left is says committed, cached, paged pool and non-paged pool.
Googling Ghost Recon, it seems that it does have a memory leak if using Vulkan, https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthre...st-Recon-Breakpoint-VULKAN-API-constant-CRASH
No changelog or anything about a fix.

That's not needed in a modern system, you're talking about a few MB of RAM, and most of the other stuff doesn't really matter, your PC will not be creating an index while you're gaming unless you just installed windows, windows defender scans generally only trigger on adding and opening new files, so shouldn't impact performance.

Those tools used to be useful when systems had in the few hundred MB of RAM, an intel graphics that shared memory and a 2C or something, not with modern 4/6/8 cores and 16GB+ RAM.
Don't have any screenies, just remember it being fully committed. Had the same issue with Breakpoint, Tarkov and Path of Exile though.
 

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Busy downloading & installing the latest Win 11 Cumulative Update - maybe that will solve the opaque, blank Widgets panel for me...

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Windows 11 Pro Insider Preview 21H2 Build 22000.65


Hello Windows Insiders, we are excited to release the first Windows 11 Insider Preview build to the Dev Channel! As we finalize the product over the coming months, we will work with you to validate the experience. You will get to try many, but not all, of the new features we showed last week in this early preview. We will bring more features such as Chat with Microsoft Teams and Android apps in the Microsoft Store over the coming months as they are ready for you – we are just getting started on this journey together!

Changes and Improvement :-
- Start now has a search box to make it easier to find what you’re looking for.
- Taskbar will now show across multiple monitors which can be enabled via Settings > Personalization > Taskbar.
- We have updated several system alert dialog boxes such as the alert for when the battery is running low on your laptop or when you change your display settings with the new Windows 11 visual design.
- The ‘Power mode’ settings are now available on the Power & battery page in Settings.
- Right clicking the desktop now directly has a Refresh option without needing to click “Show more options”.
- Right clicking a .ps1 file in File Explorer now directly has a Run with PowerShell options without needing to click “Show more options”.
- Available snap layouts when using smaller PCs in portrait orientation have been optimized for that posture. You can now choose to snap three apps on top of each other, instead of four quadrants.
- Based on the collaboration with the most popular GIF provider in China, weshineapp.com, GIF selections are now available for Windows Insiders in China via the emoji panel (WIN + .). If the location is set as China, then GIF data will appear from weshineapp.com.
- Right-clicking on the volume icon in the taskbar now includes an option to troubleshoot sound problems.


Fixes :-
- We fixed a remote code execution exploit in the Windows Print Spooler service, known as “PrintNightmare”, as documented in CVE-2021-34527. For more information, see KB5004945.

- Taskbar:
We fixed an issue where it wasn’t possible to click the Show Desktop button with your mouse at the very edge of the Taskbar.
We fixed an issue where the date and time in the Taskbar weren’t reflecting your preferred format.
We fixed an issue where the preview window might not display the entire window when hovering over Task View on the Taskbar.
We fixed an issue pressing ESC or clicking the desktop wouldn’t dismiss the window of open app preview thumbnails if you set focus to it after pressing WIN + T.
We fixed an issue where if you rotate a PC to portrait orientation and back to landscape, it could result in app icons not displaying in the Taskbar despite there being room.

- Settings:
We fixed an issue resulting in Settings failing to launch. If you were impacted in the previous flight, please see here.
We fixed a noticeable stutter in the animation when closing Quick Settings and Notification Center by clicking on their respective icons in the taskbar.
We fixed an issue where the Quick Settings and Notification Center windows were missing shadows.
We fixed an issue where it wasn’t possible to launch Quick Settings by setting keyboard focus to it in the taskbar and pressing the Enter key.
We fixed an issue where Quick Settings wouldn’t render correctly if you removed all settings except volume.
We fixed an issue that mitigates Focus Assist enabling unexpectedly.
We fixed an issue with the animation in the touch keyboard when resizing it in Settings.
We fixed an issue where Sign-in Options in Settings had an unexpected checkbox under Facial Recognition with no text.
We fixed an issue where the button to disconnect a work or school account in Account Settings wasn’t working.
We fixed an issue where Lock screen Settings had a toggle with no text.
We fixed an issue where the title of the Advanced Options page under Windows Update in Settings could be missing.
We fixed an issue where the “Windows privacy options” at the bottom of Privacy & Security > Search Permissions in Settings wasn’t working.
We fixed an issue where the Open Navigation button could become overlapped with other text.
We fixed an issue causing Settings to crash when applying a theme under Contrasts.
We fixed an issue where parts of Settings were unexpectedly in English for some non-English languages.

- File Explorer:
We fixed an issue resulting in pinning and unpinning apps from Start not working, the command bar in File Explorer disappearing, and the snap layouts unexpectedly not appearing until rebooting your PC.
We fixed an issue that could result in the elements of File Explorer’s title bar being unreadable due to low contrast.
We fixed an issue where some of the icons in File Explorer’s context menu could be blurry.
We fixed an issue where the “see more” menu in File Explorer’s command bar wouldn’t dismiss when you clicked on Options.
We fixed an issue that could result in not being able to create a new folder on the desktop.

- Search:
We fixed an issue resulting in Search having grey boxes sometimes instead of app icons.
We fixed an issue that could result in Search dropping the first keystroke when pressing the Windows key and starting to type.
We fixed an issue where when hovering your mouse over the Search icon on the taskbar, the third recent search would not load and remained blank.
We fixed an issue where if you searched for Windows Update, it would open Settings but not navigate to the Windows Update settings page.

- Widgets:
We fixed an issue where system text scaling was scaling all widgets proportionally and could result in cropped widgets.
We fixed an issue where when using screen reader/Narrator in widgets it wasn’t properly announcing content sometimes.
We fixed an issue where resizing the Money widget could result in the bottom half of it not displaying anything.

Other:
We fixed a memory leak that was noticeable when using one of the C# printing samples.
We fixed an issue causing an error in safe mode saying 0xc0000005 – Unexpected parameters.
We fixed two issues that could cause explorer.exe to start crashing in a loop, when the display language was set to Russian or when multiple input methods enabled.
We fixed an issue where if you minimize a full screen window and later restore it, there was a chance it could result in a bug check with win32kfull.
We fixed an issue resulting in some WSL users seeing “The parameter is incorrect” when opening Windows Terminal.
We fixed an issue causing blurry windows in ALT + Tab.
We fixed an issue resulting in a flicker in the taskbar when Korean IME users used ALT + Tab.
We fixed an issue impacting reliability of displaying the UI when using WIN + Space to switch input methods.
We fixed an issue impacting voice typing reliability.
We fixed an issue resulting in the “New snip in X seconds” options in Snip & Sketch not working.
 

Ivan Leon

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After the Cumulative Update I did earlier this morning (See #23 above), it now displays Build 22000.71 here...

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Hi Everyone, I have just installed Windows 11 on my 10 year old Laptop. It does not support TPM 2.0 nor does it have Secure Boot. I found a workaround last night and installed this morning. View attachment 1107518
I updated from Window 10 and kept all my personal files and installed Software, Office 2019 etc, it worked seamlessly. The changes to the original ISO are approx One Mb and it takes seconds.
View attachment 1107524 .


As reported earlier, I installed Windows 11 on my Dell Latitude E6420 Laptop. I have 2 operating systems on a 500GB SSD, namely Windows 10 and Windows 11. Yesterday I decided to try and watch DSTV on my Laptop.
Downloading Bluestacks 5 on Win 10 first. All went well, however when trying to actually log in, I found it very "laggy" having to wait 4 or 5 seconds when typing, for it to actually show in the boxes. My Laptop is bloat free, no anti virus to nag me, so I tried a restart, still the same. Booted into Win 11 and installed Bluestacks and tried to log in. The difference was astounding, hardly any lag whatsoever, almost instantaneous when typing into the boxes. My download speeds have also increased. My Windows 11 ISO was downloaded from Microsoft and I have a paid license for Win 10. To install Win 11, there are 4 small files on the original ISO (less than 1Mb) which you overwrite, which then lets you bypass the limitations for older machines. I'm finding 11 is quiet fun to work with. Just my 10c for the doubters.
 

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As reported earlier, I installed Windows 11 on my Dell Latitude E6420 Laptop. I have 2 operating systems on a 500GB SSD, namely Windows 10 and Windows 11. Yesterday I decided to try and watch DSTV on my Laptop.
Downloading Bluestacks 5 on Win 10 first. All went well, however when trying to actually log in, I found it very "laggy" having to wait 4 or 5 seconds when typing, for it to actually show in the boxes. My Laptop is bloat free, no anti virus to nag me, so I tried a restart, still the same. Booted into Win 11 and installed Bluestacks and tried to log in. The difference was astounding, hardly any lag whatsoever, almost instantaneous when typing into the boxes. My download speeds have also increased. My Windows 11 ISO was downloaded from Microsoft and I have a paid license for Win 10. To install Win 11, there are 4 small files on the original ISO (less than 1Mb) which you overwrite, which then lets you bypass the limitations for older machines. I'm finding 11 is quiet fun to work with. Just my 10c for the doubters.
Just curious why you need BlueStacks to watch DSTV. I thought you can just login directly on your browser?
 

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When the Win 11 Insider Preview was launched at the end of last month, I also tried to install Win 11 onto a 120 GB partition on an old PC where I currently had another copy of Win 10 Pro Insider Preview already installed for testing & evaluation purposes.

This PC only has a 2.0 GHz Core 2 Duo processor & 4 GB of RAM in it - so when I initially ran the Win 11 Compatibility Tool there, it came up with a 'Windows 11 is not supported' error.

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I therefore installed Win 11 onto my i7-3770 3.40 GHz PCV with 16 GB of RAM on it instead.

Whilst checking the old dinosaur PC early this morning for any new Windows 10 Insider Builds, it came up with 'Windows 11 Insider Preview ready to install' when I checked Windows Updates, so I just clicked 'Download' to see what would happen... lo & behold, after about 2 hours of downloading & installing... it has now been successfully upgraded to Win 11 Pro Build 22000.65.

2021-07-17 Win 11 Update Build 22000.65.jpg

Looks like MS have relaxed the requirements even further after feedback from irate users concerned that their older-generation Win 10 PC's would NOT be upgradable to Win 11.

:whistling:
 
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When the Win 11 Insider Preview was launched at the end of last month, I also tried to install Win 11 onto a 120 GB partition on an old PC where I currently had another copy of Win 10 Enterprise Inside Preview already installed for testing & evaluation purposes.

This PC only has a 2.0 GHz Core 2 Duo processor & 4 GB of RAM in it - so when I initially ran the Win 11 Compatibility Tool there, it came up with a 'Windows 11 is not supported' error.

I therefore installed Win 11 onto my i7-3770 3.40 GHz PCV with 16 GB of RAM on it instead.

Whilst checking the old dinosaur PC early this morning for any new Windows 10 Insider Builds, it came up with 'Windows 11 Insider Preview ready to install' when I checked Windows Updates, so I just clicked 'Download' to see what would happen... lo & behold, after about 2 hours of downloading & installing... it has now been successfully upgraded to Win 11 Enterprise Build 22000.65.

View attachment 1109446

Looks like MS have relaxed the requirements even further after feedback from irate users concerned that their older-generation Win 10 PC's would NOT be upgradable to Win 11.

:whistling:
Can confirm. Today both both my 10 year old Dell (i7, 16GB, 512GBSSD/1TBHDD but no TPM) and my 5 year old Dell (128GB SSD, i5 , 4GB RAM, TPM 1.2) have the update showing.

Installing it first on the 5 year old PC as it's just for testing. My 10 Year old laptop runs 24/7 and I can't afford it got get screwed up even though it's my daily driver
 

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Hi Everyone, I have just installed Windows 11 on my 10 year old Laptop. It does not support TPM 2.0 nor does it have Secure Boot. I found a workaround last night and installed this morning. View attachment 1107518
I updated from Window 10 and kept all my personal files and installed Software, Office 2019 etc, it worked seamlessly. The changes to the original ISO are approx One Mb and it takes seconds.
View attachment 1107524 .


You are now mining some coin for someone :p
 

Johnatan56

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As reported earlier, I installed Windows 11 on my Dell Latitude E6420 Laptop. I have 2 operating systems on a 500GB SSD, namely Windows 10 and Windows 11. Yesterday I decided to try and watch DSTV on my Laptop.
Downloading Bluestacks 5 on Win 10 first. All went well, however when trying to actually log in, I found it very "laggy" having to wait 4 or 5 seconds when typing, for it to actually show in the boxes. My Laptop is bloat free, no anti virus to nag me, so I tried a restart, still the same. Booted into Win 11 and installed Bluestacks and tried to log in. The difference was astounding, hardly any lag whatsoever, almost instantaneous when typing into the boxes. My download speeds have also increased. My Windows 11 ISO was downloaded from Microsoft and I have a paid license for Win 10. To install Win 11, there are 4 small files on the original ISO (less than 1Mb) which you overwrite, which then lets you bypass the limitations for older machines. I'm finding 11 is quiet fun to work with. Just my 10c for the doubters.
Very, very doubtful.
And "no anti-virus to nag me" so you manually disabled Windows Defender as well? Sounds like you probs got a virus then.
Did you have hyper-v enabled on W10, need that for emulators. As a side note, apk is going to "die" in a few weeks, Google is mandating to use aab for new apps instead (android app bundle), will be interesting if MS supports that.
Download speeds won't change unless you messed with TCP/IP scaling or something.
Just my 10c as a doubter.
 

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Looks like MS have relaxed the requirements even further after feedback from irate users concerned that their older-generation Win 10 PC's would NOT be upgradable to Win 11.

:whistling:
Or the geniuses are screwing something up somewhere..... the useless initial "can I run it" apps were already a good indication of chaos ahead.
 

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Well time to join the club:

My unsupported laptop seems to be working just fine, in fact I might even say its faster than Windows 10 on same hardware.

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So am I correct saying you don't need that TPM 2.0 requirement anymore? My new PC I built this year has no TPM module.
 

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So am I correct saying you don't need that TPM 2.0 requirement anymore? My new PC I built this year has no TPM module.
yes you dont need secure boot or tpm as long as you mod a file in sources folder .
 

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So am I correct saying you don't need that TPM 2.0 requirement anymore? My new PC I built this year has no TPM module.
All AMD Ryzen and Intel Core CPU's from 7th gen (I think) have TPM 2.0 built in.
 
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