Windows 8 pains ...

ponder said:
MS did not force you to upgrade to Win 8, there was no need to upgrade to that pos.
Win 7 has mainstream support until January 13, 2015, extended support until January 14, 2020.
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What if you're 'forced' to get Windows 8 if you get a new PC / laptop, due to your old one(s) packing up, as they're starting to come out pre-installed now with Win. 8 ?

I got a new PC a few months ago with Windows 7 pre-installed -
by & large, I'm satisfied with it, but all I seem to have received with the PC was a recovery disc.

So, in future, are we to rely on the Sevice Packs sorting out the bugs ?
Just asking as to what can be expected.
 
Amazed at the hand wringing. I've had a wonderful win 8 experience and when I have to work on win 7 at work I really miss all the little improvements to the system and desktop. Just yesterday I was fighting to get win 7 to safely eject a USB that was NOT IN USE and it made me long for my win 8 that always ejects on one click.

Okay sure, the Metro stuff is going to be awkward if you aren't into that kind of interface, but you can spend 99% of your time just on the desktop, which for me has been like a faster, better windows 7 with the exception of one MOBO driver that isn't playing ball with the OS yet.
 
Need some advice here. Got my hands on a enterprise copy and would like to give it a shot.
I am however in Mozambique, so if the upgrade gives problems I might wait till I am home...and upgrade failures?
 
ponder said:
MS did not force you to upgrade to Win 8, there was no need to upgrade to that pos.

Win 7 has mainstream support until January 13, 2015, extended support until January 14, 2020.

Beyond windows there's also os x & linux as alternatives.
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I'm forced to upgrade by January or my promo key expires, I'm not looking forward to it!
 
Windows 8 is M$'s latest failure. It's logic for you to go back to Windows 7.
 
DarkSpectre said:
Windows 8 is M$'s latest failure. It's logic for you to go back to Windows 7.
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By what reckoning are you calling it a failure? Financially?

I really don't see why anyone wouldn't switch to windows 8 unless there's some kind of new OS compatibility problem that is preventing something crucial from running as it should.

On the plus side you get a faster, lighter, much more secure OS. You get tons of little improvements to make life better like being able to restore the OS to it's original state with a click, or refreshing the OS while keeping your documents. Or the file history backup measure or the storage spaces feature (although want a few more updates before I test that out). The improved task manager, being able to mount iso's, the improved file copy, the ribbon system for explorer, ejecting media working every time, quicker ways to get to many elements, improved power management.

Sure, the Metro stuff isn't for everyone and it's got some frustrating elements. Personally I like it quite a bit despite a few annoyances and the app store being in the early stages, but I'm spending most of my time on the desktop anyway.
 
I'm not really having any big issues with Win8 but I am somewhat wondering why I upgraded since I'm not really gaining anything that I couldn't already do perfectly well in Win7. I can live quite happily without Metro thanks. It's not really added anything to my life so far. I'm also still not so keen on the flattened non-Aero look; I get transparency is old hat but is it really a better alternative to just remove it and make it look like Win7 Basic?

I do like the new Windows Explorer. And the Task Manager. And.. um..... well I like those.
 
dazzazzad said:
By what reckoning are you calling it a failure?
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If a user has to struggle for hours to get important updates to install it is a failure. If a user must switch off all non-MS services to get an update installed it is a failure. If a user must use Google and forums to look for help to get out of continued download and reboot failures due to poor programming and testing at MS, yes then it is a failure. MS's advice was to uninstall my sound and video drivers then try again ... WTF?! I'm using a Dell XPS 13 ... a well known brand and machine ... not a custom built PC.

Modern UI is rubbish. It is fugly beyond words. Not for a PC/laptop without touch screens.
 
BeVonk! said:
If a user has to struggle for hours to get important updates to install it is a failure. If a user must switch off all non-MS services to get an update installed it is a failure. If a user must use Google and forums to look for help to get out of continued download and reboot failures due to poor programming and testing at MS, yes then it is a failure. MS's advice was to uninstall my sound and video drivers then try again ... WTF?! I'm using a Dell XPS 13 ... a well known brand and machine ... not a custom built PC.

Modern UI is rubbish. It is fugly beyond words. Not for a PC/laptop without touch screens.
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That's a failure for you (or the user you speak of). If everyone was having the problem then we could talk about MS crapping the bed. You are experiencing a problem/bug with a new OS. If that constitutes failure then you can lump every OS into the same wagon. Unfortunately these things happen. I still regularly encounter bugs and issues with win 7 and that's an OS that's fully mature.
 
dazzazzad said:
That's a failure for you (or the user you speak of). If everyone was having the problem then we could talk about MS crapping the bed. You are experiencing a problem/bug with a new OS. If that constitutes failure then you can lump every OS into the same wagon. Unfortunately these things happen. I still regularly encounter bugs and issues with win 7 and that's an OS that's fully mature.
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Isolated cases ... no problem. My case as described ... see link to article earlier ... more common problem.
 
When the customer must become a geek to stop services and unistall video and sound drivers to get Windows updates to install then it is "Houston, we have a problem." time. After getting the updates working I now get intermittent .Net Framework error messages.
 
w!shfulth!nk!ng said:
What if you're 'forced' to get Windows 8 if you get a new PC / laptop, due to your old one(s) packing up, as they're starting to come out pre-installed now with Win. 8 ?
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You are free to buy Windows 7 now and keep it for future PCs. You can transfer it from one PC to another as long as it's not a OEM copy.
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?c2=14019
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy



Aqua_lung said:
I'm forced to upgrade by January or my promo key expires, I'm not looking forward to it!
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Promo key for what, Win8? Do you currently have Win7 or Win8 on the PC? You don't have to upgrade, you can go buy Win7.
 
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ponder said:
Promo key for what, Win8? Do you currently have Win7 or Win8 on the PC? You don't have to upgrade, you can go buy Win7.
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Don't tell me it's for Media Centre!

Windows 7 Home Premium, Pro and Ultimate gets released with Media Centre. :)
 
dazzazzad said:
Amazed at the hand wringing. I've had a wonderful win 8 experience and when I have to work on win 7 at work I really miss all the little improvements to the system and desktop. Just yesterday I was fighting to get win 7 to safely eject a USB that was NOT IN USE and it made me long for my win 8 that always ejects on one click.

Okay sure, the Metro stuff is going to be awkward if you aren't into that kind of interface, but you can spend 99% of your time just on the desktop, which for me has been like a faster, better windows 7 with the exception of one MOBO driver that isn't playing ball with the OS yet.
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So I take it you're using Windows 8 on a nice new tablet, cos it's a tablet OS.

*Never had problems with USB2/3 unplugging devices from my Windows 7 desktop, maybe you need a new flashdrive?
 
kingrob said:
So I take it you're using Windows 8 on a nice new tablet, cos it's a tablet OS.

*Never had problems with USB2/3 unplugging devices from my Windows 7 desktop, maybe you need a new flashdrive?
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No, on a desktop PC. And the desktop part of the OS is like windows 7 just the same or better in most ways.

If you've never seen "device is busy" when trying to unmount something then you're one lucky dude. I've gotten the message very often from win 7 and linux on different systems and with different devices. It's just a part of the "experience" of having a PC. So even though it's a small thing it's almost joyous how win 8 (for me at least) dismounts right away every time.
 
Windows Defender has been assiduously removing my legitimate downloads for a while now and I'm getting to my end of patience with it. It's much more aggressive than Win7 Defender.
 
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