Windows: It's Over - ZDNet Article

Skype for Windows 8 looks *** no matter how you use it. They should have stripped that client out completely and started again.
 
I don't really understand how people manage to stoop to such extreme depths of imbecility as statements like : "Windows: It's over"

/shrug
 
This is me watching the Windows8 saga unfold:
[video=youtube;xeHw2sFOct8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeHw2sFOct8[/video]
 
Fudzy said:
Skype for Windows 8 looks *** no matter how you use it. They should have stripped that client out completely and started again.
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yea that I will fully agree with, on day 1 I went looking for apps to try out and everyone I came across was absolutely ****e. I deleted the skype app and installed the windows7 full skype installation on win8 and it works perfectly and feels normal again.
Haven't really bothered with apps however I will say I use the mail app for my hotmail account and even though it is missing quite a few features it works whenever I just need to read any new private mails.
 
m4dh4tt3r said:
to be honest, I have never noticed it. My PC works the exact same as it did when I had windows 7 installed. Actually it runs faster and has some extra utilities that windows7 was lacking.

I do not use any windows 8 apps from the app store. Deleted them all on day1 and have never bothered looking again, I am happy with my normal windows programs. I just deleted all the apps from the start screen and added in all my apps that I use on a daily basis and I am used to the placement of them and dont really notice anything out of place as such.

As for the rest, I use my desktop as I did in windows 7, It looks exactly the same to me? I dont see any icons out of place.. Ill take a pic later if required but everything is exactly the same on the desktop except for the round start button which is now just an invisible button.
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I agree with this^
Pretty happy with Win8 on my touchscreen-less notebook,

All devices will be touch screen sooner or later, MS is just speeding up the process
 
Have any of you got Windows 8 keyboards? I noticed in the shops the other day the new keyboards have that row of buttons that come up when you hover on the right hand side.
 
The_Librarian said:
Speeding up the process when sales are slumping? :erm:
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Some people on here are just so dillusional.

OP just posted an article that clearly shows proof that Windows 8 is an absolute disaster for pc sales, but people on here keep telling you Windows 8 is simply the best. Seriously people, WTF is wrong with you??

I think they should become politicians.
 
who keeps saying it is simply the best operating system?

Also just because sales are failing and retards all over the world that refuse to learn and tweak a few things deem it as a disaster does not mean it is a disaster. seriously WTF is wrong with the world?
 
Windows 8 does suck for me personally ....... is it the end of Windows? Nope, that's just the fanbois hoping. Mountain out of a molehill article :rolleyes:
 
Yeah new sales only paint half the picture. It's not as if little Johnny is going to stop playing Farmville on his dad's notebook cos it's a year old. I think the statistics on systems connected to the internet are a good indicator.
 
kingrob said:
Some people on here are just so dillusional.

OP just posted an article that clearly shows proof that Windows 8 is an absolute disaster for pc sales, but people on here keep telling you Windows 8 is simply the best. Seriously people, WTF is wrong with you??

I think they should become politicians.
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They can't hear you over the sound of the sinking ship.
 
kingrob said:
Some people on here are just so dillusional.

OP just posted an article that clearly shows proof that Windows 8 is an absolute disaster for pc sales, but people on here keep telling you Windows 8 is simply the best. Seriously people, WTF is wrong with you??

I think they should become politicians.
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Its not just about windows 8 being rubbish.

Its more about what else is happening in the market. Tablets taking over PC sales in a big way, IOS ecosystem growing, consoles moving in on PC gaming market (xbox doomed), Linux server moving in on Windows server.

Its an all out assault on Microsoft. We are moving away from them being the dominant force in the computing world, they will still be a major force but they are not going to be the main ou any more.
 
The OP's quoted article lost me in the second sentence:
I'm sure many people in 1491 thought that the Earth was flat, too.
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This guy is so sure "many people in 1491 thought that the Earth was flat, too". Huh?

That's one of the perennial urban myths that infects the culture. Heck, I remember my teacher in primary school retailing that story, and we all believed it - those poor benighted medieval we all thought.

But it's pure nonsense.

The Flat Earth story is a fiction made up by a disaffected anti-Christian Frenchman in the early 19th Century.

Since at least the Fifth Century BC everyone has known and believed that the Earth is an orb, a sphere. No-one in Europe/Western Civilisation ever believed the Earth was flat.

From Wikipedia here:
The myth of the Flat Earth is the modern misconception that the prevailing cosmological view during the Middle Ages saw the Earth as flat, instead of spherical.[1] The idea seems to have been widespread during the first half of the 20th century, so that the Members of the Historical Association in 1945 stated that:

"The idea that educated men at the time of Columbus believed that the earth was flat, and that this belief was one of the obstacles to be overcome by Columbus before he could get his project sanctioned, remains one of the hardiest errors in teaching."[2]

During the early Middle Ages, virtually all scholars maintained the spherical viewpoint first expressed by the Ancient Greeks. From at least the 14th century, belief in a flat earth among the educated was nearly nonexistent, in spite of fanciful depictions in art, such as the exterior of Hieronymus Bosch's famous triptych The Garden of Earthly Delights, in which a disc-shaped earth is shown floating inside a transparent sphere.[3]

According to Stephen Jay Gould, "there never was a period of 'flat earth darkness' among scholars (regardless of how the public at large may have conceptualized our planet both then and now). Greek knowledge of sphericity never faded, and all major medieval scholars accepted the earth's roundness as an established fact of cosmology."[4] Historians of science David Lindberg and Ronald Numbers point out that "there was scarcely a Christian scholar of the Middle Ages who did not acknowledge [Earth's] sphericity and even know its approximate circumference".[5]

Historian Jeffrey Burton Russell says the flat earth error flourished most between 1870 and 1920, and had to do with the ideological setting created by struggles over evolution.[6] Russell claims "with extraordinary [sic] few exceptions no educated person in the history of Western Civilization from the third century B.C. onward believed that the earth was flat", and credits histories by John William Draper, Andrew Dickson White, and Washington Irving for popularizing the flat-earth myth.[7]
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Perhaps the rest of the quoted article from ZDnet has the same sort of misonceptions?
 
Arthur said:
The OP's quoted article lost me in the second sentence:


This guy is so sure "many people in 1491 thought that the Earth was flat, too". Huh?

That's one of the perennial urban myths that infects the culture. Heck, I remember my teacher in primary school retailing that story, and we all believed it - those poor benighted medieval we all thought.

But it's pure nonsense.

The Flat Earth story is a fiction made up by a disaffected anti-Christian Frenchman in the early 19th Century.

Since at least the Fifth Century BC everyone has known and believed that the Earth is an orb, a sphere. No-one in Europe/Western Civilisation ever believed the Earth was flat.

From Wikipedia here:


Perhaps the rest of the quoted article from ZDnet has the same sort of misonceptions?
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But most people were uneducated and would not have known this anyway. There was no books and school for the average joe... and a lot of the world was isolated from Europe.

Also... read the article it makes good points.
 
Microsoft's history and past success has skewed it's corporate sense of value. Whether you like Windows 8 or not, to many people, it is not really necessary. In terms of functionality, they reached a point of diminishing returns with Windows XP. My Windows 7 PC does everything I need it to so I'm not going to pay money to upgrade to Windows 8. For me and many others, there's no added value.

Resistance to change also works a great deal in Microsoft's favour. If it didn't, alternative technologies would feature much more greatly in the corporate world.

A radical, innovative and disruptive move on Microsoft's part would have been to release Windows XP as a FLOSS project with community support at end of life. This wouldn't affect sales of Windows 7 or 8 because the later OS's are so much better value that everyone would freely choose them over Windows XP. I'm actually glad that MS won't do this as it would probably be more harmful to Linux and other Free software than their current course.
 
Windows 8 is potentially a speed bump for MS, yes... but the end of Windows (or the start of the end), not a chance in hell.
 
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