Windows Surface vs iPad vs Samsung Galaxy tablet comparison

Which tablet platform do you prefer?

  • iOS (iPad)

    Votes: 8 21.1%

  • Android

    Votes: 19 50.0%

  • Windows 8

    Votes: 10 26.3%

  • Windows RT

    Votes: 1 2.6%

  • Windows 7

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • BlackBerry Tablet OS

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    38
McCrazieGoalz said:
Dude. Where have you been?

The stats that you are refering to are probably for one version on Windows e.g. Windows XP.

Windows Vista alone runs on about the same number of PCs as OS X with about 6% of the entire PC market. OS X is on 7% of the PC market.

Win XP is on 37% of all PC (i.e. all desktops and laptops in the world).

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Dude - I'm referring to the number of computers running office, not what OS pcs are running.

You claimed 90% of all pcs are running Office, all I asked was where you got that stat from.
 
icyrus said:
Nothing screams old world thinking quite like equating productivity and Microsoft Office.
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Maybe, but Office was more productive than all of its competitors including Lotus 1-2-3, MultiMate, WordPerfect, dBase, Paradox, etc, etc, etc.

And has thus become the de facto market standard.
 
Jola said:
It will be the same stripped down version that you will find on Windows 8 RT.

For real work you will need a tablet with the full Windows 8 and Windows Office. And Photoshop CS6, etc, etc, etc.

For example : http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/12/3495036/asus-tachi-windows-8-tablet-laptop-hybrid-pre-order

I don't like the dual screen on that, though, it is unnecessary and just increases the cost.
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True, but the full version of Office is not very touch friendly, and thus you will need a keyboard for it is be useful. In which case a MacBook Air or similar would be the choice for most people I imagine
 
JStrike said:
True, but the full version of Office is not very touch friendly, and thus you will need a keyboard for it is be useful. In which case a MacBook Air or similar would be the choice for most people I imagine
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You need a notebook with a touch screen.

Something like an Asus TF700T with Dock, but with an intel processor and running Windows 8.

Then you have everything, keyboard, touchpad, mouse, touchscreen.

I am sure that computers like that will be out soon. Maybe even next month.
 
BeVonk! said:
On the road/plane/etc - or just away from your normal working environment - the docking station connected to the display, etc is out ... so it becomes a touchscreen laptop of sorts. For many users such a full Windows 8 setup may be enough (running Office etc) but for sure not with Windows RT. For what you describe here I prefer an ultrabook (like my XPS 13) which is as small/thin as such a powerful full Windows 8 i5 Surface device would be. I don't have to wait for that as the ultrabooks are available right now. Touch-screen is anyway not what I would want to work on for production tasks so a keyboard (and in many cases a mouse is a must). The Surface you have in mind is therefore just a touch-screen ultrabook. Why not get an ultrabook now then?
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So in other words it is a laptop replacement, and it comes down to personal preference.

BTW I actually do have media production in mind (what I do on the side).
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BTW your leet ultrabook is also not capable of doing heavy graphics rendering.
 
Jola said:
You need a notebook with a touch screen.

Something like an Asus TF700T with Dock, but with an intel processor and running Windows 8.

Then you have everything, keyboard, touchpad, mouse, touchscreen.

I am sure that computers like that will be out soon. Maybe even next month.
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But in which case, the Assus TF700T with Dock and Surface Pro are basically Macbook Air competitors rather than iPad competitors.
They essentially require a Keyboard to properly functional
 
bwana said:
Dude - I'm referring to the number of computers running office, not what OS pcs are running.

You claimed 90% of all pcs are running Office, all I asked was where you got that stat from.
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I see your point but the natural assumption is that if you have Windows, 9 times out of 10 you have Office.

Further, even OS X has Office so that 90% of all PCs in the world have Office could be an under estimate.

To further support my point, here is an article that predicts that Win tablets will gain market share based on Office alone (munching up Android tablets along the way - not so much Apple tablets):

Link.

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JStrike said:
But in which case, the Assus TF700T with Dock and Surface Pro are basically Macbook Air competitors rather than iPad competitors.
They essentially require a Keyboard to properly functional
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Nope, when you want to play games or read newspapers or watch movies you clip the screen off and it becomes an iPad competitor.

This is where the iPad could lose out, zero flexibility.

Do yourself a favour and look at a Asus TF-700T with the Dock, it is amazing. Mine is loaded with 192GB of flash memory (3*64GB).

Soon there will be such computers running Windows 8.
 
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Jola said:
Nope, when you want to play games or read newspapers or watch movies you clip the screen off and it becomes an iPad competitor.

This is where the iPad could lose out, zero flexibility.

Do yourself a favour and look at a Asus TF-700T with the Dock, it is amazing. Mine is loaded with 192GB of flash memory (3*64GB).

Soon there will be such computers running Windows 8.
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Possibly. But I think that is a solution in need of a problem.
I imagine Windows RT tablets will be popular, but these MacBook Air / Tablet things such as the Surface Pro and Assus TF700T? I don't think so.
Asus has long had their Transformer range of devices, and the market has rejected them.
I don't imagine this will be any different
 
The Windows 8 / Windows RT confusion gets even more interesting when a term like "WinRT API" enters the mix.

"The WinRT version of Jan's Awesome App is causing problems on my Surface with Windows RT, but runs fine on my Windows 8 desktop PC. The desktop version of the app runs fine on both my desktop PC and Surface with Windows 8 Pro."

Joe Average said:
Jan, did you contact MS SA to ask what their plans are for the Surface en when it would be available locally ?
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I have and was met with deafening silence. The only info we have at the moment comes from a tech evangelist at Tech Days JHB who said that the Surface *won't* be in SA on Win8 launch day.

Penquin said:
While you're at it, the Note has a quad-core CPU not a dual-core.
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I hang my head in shame. Fixed.
 
Eish.. that poll. Question should be What platform do you percieve yourself preferring?
 
abandonallhope said:
BTW your leet ultrabook is also not capable of doing heavy graphics rendering.
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Why I have the Lenovo. The Ultrabook runs Corel Draw and Adobe Photoshop/Illustrator with ease. The Surface Pro would do so too, but that is where the confusion comes in ... the Surface running RT won't (but many think it will).
 
McCrazieGoalz said:
The issues that the Surface addresses in terms of productivity are a lot more basic than the tech fundies are trying to make it.

For one, Win8 RT is really designed for people who are not power users. This means that they are less likely to be the types of people who use Adobe Photoshop for instance. This is one of the productivity apps that some are saying cannot run on RT and thus the Surface is no different from an iPad.

The difference in that is that Surface is Windows while the iPad is iOS. iPad means no Windows or Office.

Office is productivity for the light PC user. Thats the point I am making.

If you need to use Photoshop then you in all likelihood are in a better position to afford Win8 Pro as opposed to RT. If you need Photoshop you are not MS's target with RT.

MS Office is productivity.

MS Office is not on iPads.

MS Office is not on Android tabs.

MS Office is on the over 90% of the 1,500,000,000 computers currently in use.

Only 20% of the 1,500,000,000 computer's users can actually choose iOS over Windows because over 90% of the work that the 90% of the 1,500,000,000 computers is done on Windows Office.

For many iOS is not even an option owing to the fact that it is not Windows, it doesn't have Office. It is simply not a productivity device for that reason.
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But Quick Office, Documents on the go, Polaris office, Smart Office and many other are. Also getting M$ Office and soon, LibreOffice.
Or you can use iOS Numbers and Words.

And if you really want something from Microsoft you can use Office 365 or from Google their cloud docs applications.

Please try again.
 
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For end users the biggest problem is the one they tend to ignore till its totally gone.

Side loading, and Windows RT has none of that. As a developer this is cool because it limits loss due to theft, and a end user this sucks as the software I BUY is never mine. Microsoft and the developer is in total control and can remove your rights to your applications at wimm and that is something far more dangerous than most people think.

Also not a fan of the single market approach. Hope we will have full access(Not false borders like music and movies) to games and not get bogged down like the iOS counterparts, where we have to stoop to fraud to buy software.

Will totally suck if that new Photoshop you want is on the market as a US only release :)
 
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JStrike said:
I don't imagine this will be any different
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IMO it will be different because the solutions running intel CPU's can run full Windows 8, with software like MS Office and Adobe Photoshop CS6.

I am definitely in the market for such a device (that can be used as a tablet or as a touchscreen notebook).

The technology is there, I am using a dual core netbook at the moment with 4GB RAM, and it can do everything that I need on the road.

So I just need a device properly packaged with a removable keyboard, so that I don't have to take a tablet and a notebook when I travel. At the moment I need both, and it is a hassle.

Quite frankly, an Asus TF-700T with an Intel processor would get close to what I want.

Another example : http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/tablet-pcs/1294423/asus-vivo-tab-review-hands-on

Edit : This is where I think it will go : http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/tablets/shop-tablets.html
 
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