windows VS apple

Fudzy said:
So Windows has Notepad? Puretext allows you to copy and paste without needing a the extra step of pasting the text in the plain text editor.
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Which can also be done using automator. No third party software required. Just a little bit of knowledge. :)

w1z4rd said:
To install Linux on a whatever box you decide just requires the skill to click "next". Though thats if there are no driver issues (which do happen)... but you woulda checked that before you installed linux.
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That was my point. :) Installing a hackintosh on a beige box is much more involved than installing windows or linux. ;)
 
ponder said:
No. OS X is NOT Linux. OS X is grew out of FreeBSD, Mach kernel, Darwin, NeXTSTEP.

The hardware is common PC hardware they use with the exception of a uncomplete EFI firmware as opposed to the common BIOS you know.




There are lot's of alternatives out there, it's your prerogative to explore. You'll be amazed how many operating systems are out there.




True. It's legal limitation, not a technical one.
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Yeah I think I know what you mean.. I mean my friend was just talking about Ubunto (i think that's how you spell it..)

But anyway, well apples look pretty awesome.. but don't want to just go for the look.. And also, I heard there is a function where you can split the HDD into 2 and then go instal windows on it.. is that possible? I thought having 2 OS on one computer is a NO NO
 
ponder said:
That's why you pick your hardware carefully. So instead of buying Mac you build a custom pc but pick your hardware carefully and load OS X on it. I never said it was easy :D
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But if I were to get a laptop? I can't really choose what's going to be in the laptop... so.. yeah..
 
bwana said:
The OP wants to run it on a laptop so a custom build is probably out of the question. :)

The simplest way to run OSX, Windows and Linux is to buy an Apple.
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So you're saying get a apple laptop.. it's fine?
 
Fudzy said:
Viruses out the way, I think it comes down to which OS suits your work/home functions best. I had a mate who wanted to convert rich text to plain text easily on his Mac, on Windows I use a little freeware called PureText which does the job simply with a shortcut key. On the Mac, we couldn't find an equivalent.

Because of it's obscurity you will probably find a lot of functions which are simple to perform on a Windows based system either unavailable or costly on a Mac.
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Yeah that's actually what I was thinking, because windows is kind of like a WAY bigger company.. But mac, is like a little portion of what really is out there.. But even thing still works with mac right?

Well what I was thinking was, because I have a desktop, and I just want the mac to be around to work and stuff.. so I guess it's better then to have a mac for work and not programming or gaming.. Right?
 
kaisterkai said:
As in only apple hard ware will work on that laptop? like if I try formatting it, nothing will happen if I insert a windows disc?
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No. You can run Windows on a Mac. Running Mac OS on a PC is illegal. But it can be done, with some hacking.
kaisterkai said:
So you're saying get a apple laptop.. it's fine?
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Yes. Their laptops are really nice, even if you just run Windows on them!
kaisterkai said:
Yeah that's actually what I was thinking, because windows is kind of like a WAY bigger company.. But mac, is like a little portion of what really is out there.. But even thing still works with mac right?

Well what I was thinking was, because I have a desktop, and I just want the mac to be around to work and stuff.. so I guess it's better then to have a mac for work and not programming or gaming.. Right?
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Absolutely. Almost everything can be found on Mac these days, otherwise, you can install Windows and it'll just be like a PC. You can use a Mac for work, programming, and even some light gaming.
 
bwana said:
It's called Textedit. It's the default text editor and comes with the OS.Still no built in Wifi but the rest seems to work.
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What netbook and wifi card? Ralink upped their drivers recently and told no-one but they now work in Snow Leopard.

OP: This thread has some misinformation and risks living up to its title. You can run whatever you want on your mac without Apple's approval. I can write and run an application right now if I want to without ever getting approval from apple or anyone else. Flash is NOT an issue. It is installed and does work. Making a hackintosh is not recommended for a beginner though, while of course if you are up to the challenge, you will find a few tutorials that go so far as to target specific laptops, making that task so much easier.

That said, I agree with the comment about suiting your equipment to your needs. You will not run Pastel on a Mac, for example. Sure, someone will say you can in one of the many virtual machine solutions but be that as it may, if you are a pen-pusher and you're going to use your equipment for same, get a PC. Anything else, get a mac.
 
GreGorGy said:
That said, I agree with the comment about suiting your equipment to your needs. You will not run Pastel on a Mac, for example. Sure, someone will say you can in one of the many virtual machine solutions but be that as it may, if you are a pen-pusher and you're going to use your equipment for same, get a PC. Anything else, get a mac.
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I disagree. A Macbook makes a great PC. It's like a nice Sony Vaio laptop in terms of thinness, design and battery life, but more flexible because you can run OS X. You don't have to virtualize. There's boot camp.
 
Garyvdh said:
I don't like to be told what software to use, which apps I can buy or not and which technologies are banned by Apple.
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bwana said:
Apple's OsX is only licensed to run on Apple hardware.
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maybe that's what gary was getting at...

kaisterkai said:
Yeah that's actually what I was thinking, because windows is kind of like a WAY bigger company
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no. mac is the bigger company if you're talking about market cap. ms is bigger wrt market share.
let's be clear - only exxon mobil makes more money than apple. apple is no longer the underdog.
 
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Here's my opinion:

I cannot see why anyone would need to dual-boot. Yes, if you are savvy you might want to, but an ordinary guy like yourself would be better off with either a PC running Windows or a Mac running OSX. It will really be a lot simpler to manage things. If you want to 'experience' a Mac, then I would say use a friend's one before buying. I also can't see the need for a Mac over a PC besides certain exclusive Design/Photography/Music apps.

You are going to have to weigh up the extra cost of a Mac versus a more value-oriented PC purchase. Personally, I would really need a good reason to pay the difference between the two, and not just, "Well, I want something different." A Mac is a premium or luxury purchase, like a Vaio or Thinkpad. If you have a primary desktop PC and just want a laptop to do work, etc, then my suggestion would be to get a sub-10K PC laptop and bank the rest.
 
murraybiscuit said:
no. mac is the bigger company if you're talking about market cap. ms is bigger wrt market share.
let's be clear - only exxon mobil makes more money than apple. apple is no longer the underdog.
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Market cap means share price, nothing else. Market Cap is not a measure of fiscal performance. MS made more than 200% of Apple's net profit last year, and I expect they will make about 150% even with Apple bringing out the iPhone 4 and iPad and MS doing pretty much nothing, and having the Kin and Slate failures.
 
Synaesthesia said:
I disagree. A Macbook makes a great PC. It's like a nice Sony Vaio laptop in terms of thinness, design and battery life, but more flexible because you can run OS X. You don't have to virtualize. There's boot camp.
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Mmmmmm - I really have no great compassion on this particular point, so I will make no effort to argue my quoted view. Having never(*) used windoze I really think that the Mac is fantastic etc etc usual fan stuff. But, if you are going to do Pastel and Excel and Word and nothing else, the 11K+ is a rather big ask for a laptop that looks nice but has to boot camp.

My feeling is that the OP has his/her heart set on trying out OS X no matter what, and if that is a determination, then by all means, a 13" MBP or even the entry MacBook is a wonderful place to start.

* Save for opening an MS-Access DB and exporting to Mysql and opening a service CD for my car and exporting to pdf (what an exercise, which I never completed - had to print)
 
Synaesthesia said:
No. You can run Windows on a Mac. Running Mac OS on a PC is illegal. But it can be done, with some hacking.

Yes. Their laptops are really nice, even if you just run Windows on them!
Absolutely. Almost everything can be found on Mac these days, otherwise, you can install Windows and it'll just be like a PC. You can use a Mac for work, programming, and even some light gaming.
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Mac can game? how? I though games were only made for windows.. I mean some might be like for mac.. but.. most for windows isn't it?
 
kaisterkai said:
Mac can game? how? I though games were only made for windows.. I mean some might be like for mac.. but.. most for windows isn't it?
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Yes, Macs can game!! You just run an emulator, called Microsoft Windows 7, on top of Mac OSX ... and then you can game. :p

*The latest OSX comes preinstalled with DirectX 13.
 
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