Windows vs Mac calculator

[Sapphiron]

Yip, to bring your mac up to PC spec, you need to add R 3000+ to your Mac's price tag, because you need to get yourself: A copy of Windows, a decent keyboard, a decent mouse and a non-reflective cover for your glossy screen. And don't forget to upgrade your guarantee to 3 years. Then you can start comparing Macs to PCs.

I've seen and used Macs in the past, and briefly poked around the newish ones. It was loathing at first sight. But, if believing that Macs are superior to Beige box PCs helps you deal with the pain that Core caused you, go for it.

Lets not forget they are R3000 more expensive to begin with

I would love to see a current iMac match my "beige box" for performance, usability and comfort at nearly the same price.

Remember a MAC is like a Smart car, cute to look at and to show your friends, but nearly useless.

 

[Synaesthesia]

Yeah but if you want/need OS X obviously a Mac is better. Eg if you're an audio producerwho wants to use logic pro or if you wanna run final cut...

The real reason to get a Mac is OS X

 

[Keeper]

Get your hands on a MAC dude you will NEVER want to use a PC again

True!

....unless you like to buy new hardware every now and again
or if you want to play games...
and if you are happy with only a few programs
and if you are OK with never being able to add a big 3D Card because it won't fit

imacs are kinda cool but if you can't upgrade easily & cheaply, use 90% of the software out there, and be able to play a new Game natively, it's pretty much useless

 

[bwana]

True!

....unless you like to buy new hardware every now and again
or if you want to play games...
and if you are happy with only a few programs
and if you are OK with never being able to add a big 3D Card because it won't fit

imacs are kinda cool but if you can't upgrade easily & cheaply, use 90% of the software out there, and be able to play a new Game natively, it's pretty much useless

Is it really that hard for people to understand that Mac hardware runs windows flawlessly/natively?

 

[NoRulez]

Yeah but if you want/need OS X obviously a Mac is better. Eg if you're an audio producerwho wants to use logic pro or if you wanna run final cut...

The real reason to get a Mac is OS X

Who wants to run Logic or Final Cut if there are many more user friendly producer apps, that can do more, at less than 1/2 the cost of these? Sonar, Samplitude, SoundForge, Wavelab, etc....

Clearly you have NEVER seen or used a MAC Never has a PC been created that could rival MAC . Hardware Software ease of use functionality Apple leads the way. PC's & Windows has been playing catch up since the begining of time.

Get your hands on a MAC dude you will NEVER want to use a PC again

Been there, done that...:erm:
With limited access to software, unless you're running Windoze on a Mac, which again brings one back to the cost of hardware...
Being able to do less on a more expensive machine just for bragging rights... Eish!

As for the so-called security:

While proponents of UNIX-based systems like Apple Mac OS X and Linux like to tout the supposed security benefits of their systems over Windows, the truth is that these competitors benefit primarily from security by obscurity. That is, so few people use these systems relative to Windows that hackers don’t bother targeting the minority operating systems.
Consider this: in 2007, the installed base of Windows-based PCs exceeded 1 billion, but the maker of the number-two OS, Apple, claims just 25 million users. That’s right, only 2.5 percent of the Windows user base is using the number-two most frequently used OS on earth. Hackers may be evil but they’re not dummies: they know where the numbers are.
This isn’t a partisan attack on Mac OS X or Linux. Both are fine systems, with their own particular strengths; and as far as security by obscurity goes, it’s certainly a valid enough reason to consider using OS X or Linux instead of Windows. It’s one of the reasons to use Mozilla Firefox instead of Internet Explorer: in addition to various features that Firefox offers, the browser is hacked a lot less often than IE simply because fewer people use it.

 

[Drake2007]

I've never been overly impressed with the OS included calculators. If you want something usefull check out emu48, an hp48 / 49 emulator. This rpn calculator is legend.

what's with all the mac vs. pc debating anyway? guys are obviously bored.

 

[Synaesthesia]

The REAL reason why macs are immune to all the viruses/crapware that windows gets, and why I prefer OS X is in this blog post (near the end)

http://daringfireball.net/2004/06/broken_windows

It's because the mac community doesn't tolerate ****. They are notoriously hard to please, they would be up on arms if there was ever any compromise in their user experience.

 

[TheRift]

More like Mac is unix, not because the users are hard to please.

 

[Synaesthesia]

I really wish that worked on the AAO.

What's AAO? Do you mean all in one?

 

[SlinkyMike]

Tis' the age old Win user Stockholm Syndrome:
You have to use Windows, sure there are options out there but face it chum: You're mediocre. You're neither rich enough to use the one alternative nor smart enough to use the other - so you love your captor and you will defend him to the end.

I know, I was there - clean since 2008.

 

[TheRift]

Shame, the age-old Mac elitest approach. We're happy for you.

 

[SlinkyMike]

Shame, the age-old Mac elitest approach. We're happy for you.

Thanks. I'm much better now.
In my personal life and in my general life.
Every so often I'll think of a computing task that I need to accomplish and almost instantly give up thinking what a drag it's going to be or how long it will take, flinching at every turn of the hourglass... but then I remember: I dumped Windows and that accomplishing this task will be enjoyable and will not create any further tasks to be accomplished, yea that still happens but I'm getting over that now.

...seriously: read back over my posts in the past, I can be found railing against the bleachwhite storm troopers, waxing lyrical how it's all but ones and zeroes and how brand does not... cannot change that simple function.

I was wrong. No one likes being wrong but trust me: in this case I'm so glad I was because if the Windows/PC experience encompassed the entirety of the personal computing experience then frankly, I'd be out - you can keep it.

BTW: elitist ...one 'e'.

 

[TheRift]

Damn it! Windows spellcheck!

I hear you on it all. Windows is not the be all and end all of computing. There's more out there that can do a better job of it. However, it often comes down to how you go about doing things. I've got no hassles with Windows and never really have an issue, especially in their latest incarnation of the OS. I do wish I was back in my unix days though. That was a pleasure to work through.

I've used MacOS variants and never been entirely impressed. Neither have I been entirely impressed with other unix-like flavours and not impressed with what Windows has had. If Mac came out with something for all platforms then I'll be over it, but they'll never offer anything outside of their own little world and this in turn makes that an expensive little world while the job can be done just as well for cheaper elsewhere. Unfortunately I don't think Mac fits the you-get-what-you-pay-for bill. Well, at least not at the exorbitant pricing thrown about in this country.

 

[Keeper]

Is it really that hard for people to understand that Mac hardware runs windows flawlessly/natively?

oh so you are telling me that windows can run games?

that's like saying "I can bake pies in this Toaster, I just need to put the toaster in the oven as well for it to work"



Anyway, even though you could run Windows to "play games", there is no way you gonna fit an ATI 5850 in that iMac lcd screen to do it, so your point is moot anyway

 

[TheRift]

Anyone had any luck installing the latest Mac OS on a VM on x86 platform?

 

[bwana]

What's AAO? Do you mean all in one?

Sorry - Acer Aspire One netbook.

oh so you are telling me that windows can run games?

that's like saying "I can bake pies in this Toaster, I just need to put the toaster in the oven as well for it to work"



Anyway, even though you could run Windows to "play games", there is no way you gonna fit an ATI 5850 in that iMac lcd screen to do it, so your point is moot anyway

I see you glossed over the whole "use 90% of the software out there" aspect of what I said. Now, I know you probably won't believe me now, but there's more to life than games.

 

[TheRift]

I see you glossed over the whole "use 90% of the software out there" aspect of what I said. Now, I know you probably won't believe me now, but there's more to life than games.

Unfortunately many people think that is why computers were invented.

 

[Synaesthesia]

Bwana, OS X runs well on an acer aspire one! I got it running with most things working on my dads with a 160gb hard drive anyway, I don't think it works well on the 8gb SSD.

 

[Keeper]

Now, I know you probably won't believe me now, but there's more to life than games.

so to sum up the conversation,

Keeper: You can't run games on an iMac
Bwana: Sure you can, just bootcamp into Windows!!!
Keeper: Wow, but can you plug a 5870 into an iMac?
Bwana: ....Err.....there's more to life than games.

haha, yeah, I read ya..... if you lose an argument of whether it can or can not do something, just say "who needs that anyway"

@ TheRift: I work on a PC from 8 - 5, and when I get home I work on advanced 3D stuffs from 6 to 12, sometimes 2AM - I don't play games that much

 

[bwana]

Bwana, OS X runs well on an acer aspire one! I got it running with most things working on my dads with a 160gb hard drive anyway, I don't think it works well on the 8gb SSD.

I've got the 120gb HD in mine - how did you get the wifi working?

so to sum up the conversation,

Keeper: You can't run games on an iMac
Bwana: Sure you can, just bootcamp into Windows!!!
Keeper: Wow, but can you plug a 5870 into an iMac?
Bwana: ....Err.....there's more to life than games.

haha, yeah, I read ya..... if you lose an argument of whether it can or can not do something, just say "who needs that anyway"

@ TheRift: I work on a PC from 8 - 5, and when I get home I work on advanced 3D stuffs from 6 to 12, sometimes 2AM - I don't play games that much

Ok - since you dont seem to understand I'll try again:

imacs are kinda cool but if you can't upgrade easily & cheaply, use 90% of the software out there...

Is it really that hard for people to understand that Mac hardware runs windows flawlessly/natively?

NB - no more reference to games.

Now . . . you can run windows therefore you can run the same software.