Within the ANC

[Darth Garth]

Lets not forget that the ANC is violent in nature.
A party born from violence will only die with violence.

You are a clear result of being fed spoonsfulls of NP propaganda in school .

Did you know that the then leader of the ANC Chief Albert Luthuli was the first South African to receive the Nobel Peace Prize in 1961 ???.

But then that did not count back then and you were not taught this in school because he was a black person.

Albert Luthuli was a lay preacher and a man of God and peacefull certainly much more so than those evil NP morons who were in power at the time who only responded with violence against the defiance campaign.

So next time mate do some basic research on the subject before opening your mouth because your assumptions jsut might be totally and utterly wrong.

 

[Baby]

Perhaps. Perhaps you just like people who share your racist views. I don't remember anyone mentioning the race of the ANC government as a factor in their dislike of it.

please icyrus of course no one will, no one likes to be called racist even though they know deep down in their hearts that its the truth. If it was white goverment then ppl would complain becoz dats what ppl do but there would be a but and some justification. as much as the anc supportes are accused of voting with their hearts so do lots on white votes out there.

Ofcourse it is expected to be like since most of the anc supportes are blacks and blacks dont have the ability to use their minds and make decisions regards who sould lead the country.

 

[Darth Garth]

I dont like a government run by idiots messing up something I love.

So do you want the Nats back in power ???.

So what is your yardstick then mate ???.

While the ANC certainly can do much better in some areas most of us will have to agree that South Africa is now doing much better under them than anybody else we had in the past ???.

If you think we are worse of than 10 years ago then you need to see a shrink seriously because then you are not living in the same country as most of us.

 

[Baby]

yes baby if u feel so strong about it get going and clean my toilet

Above sentence is a joke, now baby and angelo before you put any words in my mouth read EVERYTHING I say.

baby from most of u and angelo's post u have been racist toward whites (truth hurts doesnt it ? ) and yes you know its the truth like icyrus said no one mentioned the colour of skin baby you and angelo keep changing every thread into a something based on skin colour and then just trying to convince us that you are so proud of being black NO ONE cares.

If I wanted to be racist towards the government I would say the stupid black people in government but I am not like you 2 racists I love this country even though you 2 will say I am just a colonialist (again a racist comment mentioned by angelo a lot of times) I dont like a government run by idiots messing up something I love.

Would any of you 2 racists die for this country or for this government ? and anwser truthfully please.

I can call you 2 racist because everything a white man does even if he farts its racism that means ur heart and mind is full of racism meaning again you are the true racists

answering ure question regarding me dieying for my country i believe u asked it abit to late, what do u think was happening in townships before Madiba was released acting out a movie? no just dat we were fighting for our country. No one has to admit it and no one id turning anything anyone is saying but merely stating what i see. U dont have to say the Stupid Black ppl its already know dat the ppl in the goverment are black and that also gives a way of trying to hide ure racist comments

 

[Baby]

You are a clear result of being fed spoonsfulls of NP propaganda in school .

Did you know that the then leader of the ANC Chief Albert Luthuli was the first South African to receive the Nobel Peace Prize in 1961 ???.

But then that did not count back then and you were not taught this in school because he was a black person.

Albert Luthuli was a lay preacher and a man of God and peacefull certainly much more so than those evil NP morons who were in power at the time who only responded with violence against the defiance campaign.

So next time mate do some basic research on the subject before opening your mouth because your assumptions jsut might be totally and utterly wrong.

this is someone who knows what they are talking about, see this just proove my point. U dont know the anc very well and what they do but u are ready to give a negetive comment about them.

 

[icyrus]

please icyrus of course no one will, no one likes to be called racist even though they know deep down in their hearts that its the truth. If it was white goverment then ppl would complain becoz dats what ppl do but there would be a but and some justification. as much as the anc supportes are accused of voting with their hearts so do lots on white votes out there.

Ofcourse it is expected to be like since most of the anc supportes are blacks and blacks dont have the ability to use their minds and make decisions regards who sould lead the country.

This is a very common problem in SA at the moment. If anyone dares to question anything, then they are racist.

You say the government has totaly failed their people on crime - thats racist.

You say the government has a problem with corruption - thats racist.

You dare to question whether AA and BEE are the right way to move forward in SA - thats racist.

You say the government has failed its people on service delivery - thats racist.

Racism in this country is the equivalent of the republican's "terrorist" trump card in the US. If you don't agree you're a terrorist/racist.

 

[Angelo]

Perhaps. Perhaps you just like people who share your racist views. I don't remember anyone mentioning the race of the ANC government as a factor in their dislike of it.

Some things are so bloody obvious they don't have to be mentioned.

 

[Baby]

This is a very common problem in SA at the moment. If anyone dares to question anything, then they are racist.

You say the government has totaly failed their people on crime - thats racist.

You say the government has a problem with corruption - thats racist.

You dare to question whether AA and BEE are the right way to move forward in SA - thats racist.

You say the government has failed its people on service delivery - thats racist.

Racism in this country is the equivalent of the republican's "terrorist" trump card in the US. If you don't agree you're a terrorist/racist.

what can we say we were thought by the best in racism, if it was'nt for the SA whites we would'nt know what racism is.

 

[DigitalSoldier]

Agreed. Isnt that what freedom of speech is all about being able to question ur government ? Without being told stfu or labled a racist

 

[DigitalSoldier]

baby and because of that reply it just shows again ur racism towards white people remember it goes both ways probably not in south africa but if you are black and hate whites and the other way around you are a racist and baby YOU ARE A RACIST!

 

[Baby]

Agreed. Isnt that what freedom of speech is all about being able to question ur government ? Without being told stfu or labled a racist

amazing how u guys tend to refere to your democratic rights when it suites u. Angelos views together with mine are also just that our views and we are also free to air them not only when and if its regarding the goverment, when ever we feel like and about what ever.

 

[icyrus]

amazing how u guys tend to refere to your democratic rights when it suites u. Angelos views together with mine are also just that our views and we are also free to air them not only when and if its regarding the goverment, when ever we feel like and about what ever.

I don't recall anyone stopping you from airing your views.

 

[icyrus]

Some things are so bloody obvious they don't have to be mentioned.

Care to explain and point out some examples that are "so bloody obvious" to you?

 

[Angelo]

Care to explain and point out some examples that are "so bloody obvious" to you?

for the sake of not repeating stuff refer back to Baby's post where she talks about the real motivation behind Government battering.

 

[JBFRobisher]

if it was'nt for the SA whites we would'nt know what racism is.

Probably still be stuck in tribalism instead. Ooops! Maybe you still ARE!

 

[icyrus]

for the sake of not repeating stuff refer back to Baby's post where she talks about the real motivation behind Government battering.

You mean this post?

u realy sound like u dont know what u are talking about. do u have any clue how and why the anc was formed. The truth of the matter is you guys dont have a problem with the anc because they are bad at running the country but becoz they are a black goverment. To u blacks will never be good enough for anything but to clean your houses and was your underwear!

What is this but the racial trump card you keep using? Like I said before no-one said anything about race, but then she came out with this.

This, in a nutshell, is the problem people have. Some people on this forum, much like the government, dismiss any questioning of how the government opperates as racist.

 

[Xarog]

Lets not forget that the ANC is violent in nature.
A party born from violence will only die with violence.

u realy sound like u dont know what u are talking about. do u have any clue how and why the anc was formed.

Yes, the ANC started out like any other political party, but they chose to oppose apartheid, and through that, became violent. That's how things like Umkhonto we Sizwe came about.

The truth of the matter is you guys dont have a problem with the anc because they are bad at running the country but becoz they are a black goverment.

You're plain wrong. I'm white. I don't care that the ANC is black, and I really do have a problem that they're bad at running the country.

To u blacks will never be good enough for anything but to clean your houses and was your underwear!

To assume this because I'm white is racist. But not only that, it's patently false.

So do you want the Nats back in power ???.

So what is your yardstick then mate ???.

While the ANC certainly can do much better in some areas most of us will have to agree that South Africa is now doing much better under them than anybody else we had in the past ???.

If you think we are worse of than 10 years ago then you need to see a shrink seriously because then you are not living in the same country as most of us.

Well, frankly, I think the ANC and the Nats have both taken their turns in messing the country up. What disturbs me is the number of ways the ANC seems to think like the Nats. Well, you know what they say - in fighting your enemy, you become him; guess that holds true even here (sad to say).

 

[pupa]

Well Angelo look what pig we have as deputy and be proud of the ANC and the country.

PS I hope USA will do with ZAR what they are doing to Venezuela and President Hugo Chavez for kniving with the terrorist states as we so blatantly do! We deserve it as we are slowly becoming a radical communist society in the making!

 

[ajak]

amazing how u guys tend to refere to your democratic rights when it suites u. Angelos views together with mine are also just that our views and we are also free to air them not only when and if its regarding the goverment, when ever we feel like and about what ever.

Spoken like a tru domestic

 

[lilDeath]

So do you want the Nats back in power ???.
So what is your yardstick then mate ???.
While the ANC certainly can do much better in some areas most of us will have to agree that South Africa is now doing much better under them than anybody else we had in the past ???.
If you think we are worse of than 10 years ago then you need to see a shrink seriously because then you are not living in the same country as most of us.

This is a completely subjective post. Anyone from their own experience and viewpoint can find something bad one or another party / government has done and accomplished.
Just 2 examples I can quickly think of, is that on the one hand currently crime and corruption is at an all time high, but then again the economy is more stable (if u can call it that). So here already you have a good and a bad... it does not mean it is linked to racism.