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Johannesburg - As management and student negotiators remained locked in a meeting over fee hikes at the University of Witwatersrand on Wednesday, protesting students weaved their way around the campus chanting slogans and singing songs.

SA Students' Congress provincial leader Themba Masondo, briefing students on the progress of the meeting, said the situation between management and student negotiators was "very hostile".

"Negotiations are ongoing... we are finding that management is highly arrogant. The situation is very hostile," he said.

Talks were continuing and as long as management failed to comply with the students' demands the protest would continue.

Students carried placards reading: "Wits should be listed in the JSE" and "Higher education for all or no education at all".

Many protesting students felt strongly about the issue and said they were concerned that the fee hikes would deny many students access to the university in 2010.

Second year mining engineering student Jabu Sibiya said the increase would hit poor families hard.

'Too heavy a burden'

"I don't know whether my parents will be able to pay with such an increase," he said.

Sibiya said he had passed maths and science "very well" and he was at the top of his class but might have to leave should his fees become too heavy a burden for his parents.

Police were on campus, however, the protest was largely peaceful on Wednesday afternoon.

Many students milled about making their way from one class to the next while other sat on the grass enjoying the early spring sun.

Outside the Wits Great Hall a mock image of the Berlin Wall was erected where musicians entertained students who were seemingly oblivious to the cause taken up by their colleagues.

One non-protesting student held up a tongue-in-cheek placard saying "Inflation sucks, deal with it".

First year student Kefiloe Pitso said she could not understand how the university wanted to implement a double digit fee hike in the midst of a recession.

"I am supporting this because if I don't it means that next year there's no possibility I will be here," she said.

Economics and finance student, Tumz B, said the protest action highlighted the underlying class and race divisions prevalent at Wits university.

Berlin wall

He said while protesting students - who were largely, but not all - black, listened to their leaders talking about their cause, the largely non-black students listened to songs about the fall of the Berlin wall.

"I hate to describe it as white and black because the divide is more a class divide but it's a fact that poorer students are mostly black.

"Most white students won't protest because their parents can afford the fee," he said.

Internationals relations student Enos Phosa said although the university was divided because of the historical background of its students, the goals achieved by the protest would benefit everyone.

"If we succeed the benefits will be universal, but this does impact more on some than others".

Achilles Tole, a BA student, said the university had placed many families in difficult financial situations and bemoaned the fact that he could not use his library card because he had not yet paid up his fees.

He said this made it difficult for him to complete essays on time and he was forced to get his friends to borrow books from the library for him.

Other students felt the fee increases were a normal part of university education.

"Everything has to go up, you can't run away from it," said first year student Denise Tamagnone.

She felt the protest was "intimidating and pretty scary".

"The protesters came into one of my lectures and jumped on our desks," she said, adding that it was unfair that she felt unsafe on her own campus.


Health sciences student Trisha-Gean Mahon said students should rather write a letter to the dean in order to voice their concerns.

"I don't think this will get anything done, they should think about a different way, like writing to the dean," she said.

Protesters would be briefed again on the progress of the meeting later this afternoon.

It's very sad that young people who are supposed to be educated and have some sort of common sense turn to violence and hooliganism without blinking an eye.

Might as well just shut down all the universities in SA seeing as a tertiary education doesn't necessarily mean you know how to use your brain. :cool:
 
even worse was the attitude this morning on 702's interview where the student representative said that striking is the normal way of getting things done, i mean seriously what the **** is up with that sick thinking methodology...

"Most white students won't protest because their parents can afford the fee," he said.
again with the white is be*** rich perception, i myself had to find a sponsor to pay my 12K for my programming course as my parents just couldn't. it is just so tiring these i-want-it-on-a-spoon generations.
 
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no no his got it wrong, white students can also not afford it, we got a civilized upbringing though and don't strike for every second thing.
 
Yeah, I was on the road at that time and happened to hear one of them saying that it's their "right" to trash the campus if the feel aggrieved by the fee hikes.

I mean c'mon, it's actually embarrassing to see students behaving like animals. Someone on these forums even posted pictures of the last time there was a strike at Wits and the students were throwing down vending machines, jumping on desks and trashing the halls. Ridiculous..

no no his got it wrong, white students can also not afford it, we got a civilized upbringing though and don't strike for every second thing.

I also can't help but notice that non-blacks don't engage in these violent activities. Sad but true..
 
The media makes it sound more dramatic than it actually was.

I've had nine classes there yesterday and today, and those buffoons were no more disruptive to any of them than some idiot's cellphone going off. I heard they really did disrupt one or two classes, but the cops put a stop to it.

Funniest thing... Yesterday their little strike coincided with some bloody police convention on the library lawns. The cops were there in full force recruiting people, showing off the K-9 unit, handing out leaflets etc. :p

He said while protesting students - who were largely, but not all - black, listened to their leaders talking about their cause, the largely non-black students listened to songs about the fall of the Berlin wall.

"I hate to describe it as white and black because the divide is more a class divide but it's a fact that poorer students are mostly black.

The protesters were almost entirely black, but there were only about a hundred of them. Wits has over twenty-thousand registered studants, and at least a quarter of them bother to show up most of the time. :p My point is that the vast majority of black students couldn't give a rats arse either.
 
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"Higher education for all or no education at all".

haha. Those who say that should not be educated.

White students also have trouble making the payments, but their families realise everything is not free handouts. The entitlement mentality should really end at varsity.
 
I bet you that 90% of those protesters are first year students who will drop out in any case during the next semester...The students that actually care would be in class or studying..
 
when you see hundreds of students, less than 10 african students in the graduate ceremony (in great hall)....................
then you will wonder "where are those african students you see them EVERYDAY"?
then you will think why they spend time and money to be a university student?

any wits student here? tomorrow, speak to your "striking friends" ..........

"come on, you guys never graduate, drop out now! saving time, saving money, putting you first (when you drop out)." :D
 
when you see hundreds of students, less than 10 african students in the graduate ceremony (in great hall)....................
then you will wonder "where are those african students you see them EVERYDAY"?
then you will think why they spend time and money to be a university student?

any wits student here? tomorrow, speak to your "striking friends" ..........

"come on, you guys never graduate, drop out now! saving time, saving money, putting you first (when you drop out)." :D

wouldn't want to be the one to say that to a mob of strikers, what with their sticks and numbers and all, lol
 
even worse was the attitude this morning on 702's interview where the student representative said that striking is the normal way of getting things done, i mean seriously what the **** is up with that sick thinking methodology...
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True, wat also shocked me about that interview during John's show is that the Vice Chancellor did not sound to be on top of the situation and could not answer questions satisfactory. Then there was an outgoing Treasurer who called in saying University management never even bothered to explain reasons behind the proposed fee hikes.
 
1 night :eek: u think thats enough?
my point is, just start having an attitude of 0 tolerance and start putting law brakers away, period. if the jails are to full then use forced labor to built new ones with inmates. i'm sure that when you start with the small things having 0 tolerance and working it up to everything else then there surely will be no more such animalistic behavior. but there are currently a sense of its ok to trash, its ok to strike, its ok to break the law because nothing too serious if anything at all will happen to me or you.

I bet you that 90% of those protesters are first year students who will drop out in any case during the next semester...The students that actually care would be in class or studying..
amonst the 1 or two maybe 3 who actually have a case and could have gone via the proper methods to getting financed the rest are just there to be in the "party" instead of doing what they should be doing; styding for a better life. i wonder where comrade malema is who so religiously always states when he can that education is the key...

True, wat also shocked me about that interview during John's show is that the Vice Chancellor did not sound to be on top of the situation and could not answer questions satisfactory. Then there was an outgoing Treasurer who called in saying University management never even bothered to explain reasons behind the proposed fee hikes.

i just skipped the radio when the opinion line was opened around 8am and one of the students was about the spew his bull****.

even more wonderful thought is : kids of today is the future of tomorrow :sick:

but of course he is in control he is following the african way™ of dealing with things being as step 3 :rolleyes:

african way of dealing with things
1) say some angerly things totally unrelated and unlogical
2) play race card if 1 fail
3) denailism
4) if 3 fails, stick head in ground, have no comment and wait for things to go away
5) repeat 4, or retry 2 and 3
 
Apparently of Wits' 28K odd students, only about 100 are in protest and making life very hard for the rest. And that 100 is COSAS [aka the retards] and they are not with the Wits SRC.
 
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