work in Australia over 45

Bill Clitnon

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Who want's to contribute to a country that won't allow some of it's tax paying citizens back?
I've watched quite a few of this guy's videos. Gives you a whole new perspective of why not to go live in legacy brand countries. Not all just about high net worth people, although that is what his business is about. Fantastic video where he takes about countries where you can go live on USD1000 pm.
Not saying I agree with the Aussie gov, but I understand why they are doing this. Part of the reason why their covid cases are so low in the first place. They are possibly the strictest country out there regarding border control.

Even with this hiccup it's still a no brainer to move there from SA.
 

Barbarian Conan

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If you are extremely talented in your work which forms part of their critical skills needs, then yes. You can also get in if you are extremely lucky (have contacts in the right places) or can find a company that will be willing to sponsor you a work VISA (if you are in the good books and working at a multi-national, you can try and ask for a transfer).

The fact that you had to ask this question makes me think you are like the average person, i.e without contacts.

To put it bluntly, if you are like most of us (average in every respect), it will be very hard but not impossible. It's probably even harder now due to COVID.

Most countries will try to make a lot of paperwork requirements to put off the average person or make it almost impossible for them to come over (they already have an excess of them and so don't want more).

AFAIK a company has to sponsor you, and you have to earn more than $153k p.a. if I remember correctly.

So yeah, almost impossible for the average joe who isn't in Aus with a job already.
 

Pegasus

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Be honest, that profile is a picture of your daughter. You are a 75 year old lady who got hold of the internet in a mental institution. It's okay, you can be honest. There are other old people here as well, like @I.am.Sam.
I thought female45 was Zana the Elf from a few years back.
 

Dairyfarmer

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Not saying I agree with the Aussie gov, but I understand why they are doing this. Part of the reason why their covid cases are so low in the first place. They are possibly the strictest country out there regarding border control.

Even with this hiccup it's still a no brainer to move there from SA.
Ok so say you were born in a country. Could be 1st or 5th generation. You have been a tax payer there, contributing to the economy. Maybe you also served in the military or some other public service. You have a bank account and savings. Maybe even a house that you pay a bond on. You have family, maybe a wife and kids. Now the government says: "Sorry but we don't want you in our country. Oh and keep paying your taxes and your bond. Also make sure you provide for your family."

There are plenty things they could do like just simply quarantining you. To just say you are not welcome is just another way of the government saying they simply don't care about their citizens. What do you think they will do for an immigrant if they don't even care about their citizens?

Imagine knowing that if you travelled out of the country there is a chance that you will not be allowed back in?
 

RandomGeek

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Yes, but you won't get a visa anymore. So if you are here, you are out of luck. You can get a work visa for NZ up until the age of 55.
Yeah the Aussies have quite a convoluted and complex visa system. For anyone considering getting a work visa - do a detailed investigation (even better, get an accredited agent) because some work visas lead to permanent residence but other work visas don't and you would need to leave the country after a few years. This depends on the exact type of visa subclass, your career and its relation to various critical skill lists, the phase of the moon on any given Friday etc etc.
 

RandomGeek

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Ok so say you were born in a country. Could be 1st or 5th generation. You have been a tax payer there, contributing to the economy. Maybe you also served in the military or some other public service. You have a bank account and savings. Maybe even a house that you pay a bond on. You have family, maybe a wife and kids. Now the government says: "Sorry but we don't want you in our country. Oh and keep paying your taxes and your bond. Also make sure you provide for your family."

There are plenty things they could do like just simply quarantining you. To just say you are not welcome is just another way of the government saying they simply don't care about their citizens. What do you think they will do for an immigrant if they don't even care about their citizens?

Imagine knowing that if you travelled out of the country there is a chance that you will not be allowed back in?
Aus just announced today that they are cutting the small number of allowed international arrivals by another 50%, due to them struggling with the Delta variant and the darn thing keeping on escaping from hotel quarantine.

So yeah many people outside of Australia are p1ssed about that but the average Aussie in Aus seems to be happy to be protected against Covid by this. And because there are more of these citizens the politicians are guaranteed to gain by this policy in the elections.
 

Other Pineapple Smurf

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we are no different than they are?!
In the eyes of Ozzies, we are not Australian and therefore they don't care regardless of what Steve Hofmeyer says on TikTok.

The sad reality is that Australia is also ageist, ironic for a country where working till you are in your 70's is not considered abnormal.

For me the only two options to get into Australia is to get two of my three kids to immigrate. I would need to wait a couple of years and then we could do a family repatriation.

The second option is to fly out and go live on my mother's farm in a caravan like a real Australian pioneer, drinking moonshine pineapple beer infused with Eucalyptus and keeping her sheep warm at night.


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JohnStarr

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Yeah the Aussies have quite a convoluted and complex visa system. For anyone considering getting a work visa - do a detailed investigation (even better, get an accredited agent) because some work visas lead to permanent residence but other work visas don't and you would need to leave the country after a few years. This depends on the exact type of visa subclass, your career and its relation to various critical skill lists, the phase of the moon on any given Friday etc etc.
We gave up on Oz. Not that either of my wife or I couldn't get in. Both of us could. It's just horrendously expensive with agent fees coming in around R90-125k. That's before you factor in what you can or cannot take (wood needs to be treated or left behind); pets are around R30-45k each; container etc.
We would have started there with nothing. Just way too costly to move, so looking elsewhere. I'd actually paid the deposit to the agent, and then we pulled the plug.
 

I.am.Sam

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Be honest, that profile is a picture of your daughter. You are a 75 year old lady who got hold of the internet in a mental institution. It's okay, you can be honest. There are other old people here as well, like @I.am.Sam.

furk you im 81
 

saor

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@saor is female45?
Seeing as it's Friday and we can say what we want...

Lol. Nah, I was just being a bit self-deprecating in a forum-ish sort of way.

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If it turns out in a few months that op is a bot - some neural net or algo cluster - it wouldn't surprise me. Something about their patterned manner of communicating in a way that seems to not quite grok the human-on-a-forum communication protocols most people seem to follow raises a flag.

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But...it's not that I really think op is a chat-bot, it's just that someone who communicates like that maybe slightly triggers in me the same thing that people with inward-facing feet triggered in me as a kid: I feel sort of sorry for them (in a way that makes no sense when I think about it). So, if I offer Stacey with the inward facing feet my cheese & biltong-powder sandwich or soften the forum criticism by calling myself an ass...that's all it is: Neural tomfuckery. Not clone shenanigans.
 

saor

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Seeing as it's Friday and we can say what we want...

Lol. Nah, I was just being a bit self-deprecating in a forum-ish sort of way.

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If it turns out in a few months that op is a bot - some neural net or algo cluster - it wouldn't surprise me. Something about their patterned manner of communicating in a way that seems to not quite grok the human-on-a-forum communication protocols most people seem to follow raises a flag.

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But...it's not that I really think op is a chat-bot, it's just that someone who communicates like that maybe slightly triggers in me the same thing that people with inward-facing feet triggered in me as a kid: I feel sort of sorry for them (in a way that makes no sense when I think about it). So, if I offer Stacey with the inward facing feet my cheese & biltong-powder sandwich or soften the forum criticism by calling myself an ass...that's all it is: Neural tomfuckery. Not clone shenanigans.
They're not gonna buy that bs but whatever.
 
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