WOTLK Dungeons

Scoliosis said:
Ordered AoC already. The world is already full of welfare epics and noobs.
Giving out Tier 5 equivalent badge loot for 2.5 hour clears of KZ killed SSC and TK progression for our guild, we had to go to Mt Hyjal to keep our guys interested, I see more of the same coming....content exploration is dead, welfare loot and 'casuals' (pvp and pve) being over-rewarded for minimal effort.....

Insane rewards for dailies have allowed people to epic gem their welfare loot, giving them a sense of achievement that is unfounded. The fat lady might not be singing just yet, but she is definitely warming up her voice.
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Not too derail the thread too much, if blizz can stop turning an MMO into an Esport, they wont loose as many players as they're about to loose when WAR/AOC comes out.

As for the Dungeons, according to a blue, "Arthas will die in a later content patch after WOTLK is released...", guess he will need to die alot sooner to please the PVE community

Yeah right, top raiding guilds can go ezmode route (10mans), farm the gear, clear the 25man in the same night. With no attunements, wotlk raid content will be cleared very fast (PTR's anyone?). Scoliosis please PM me where you ordered AOC
 
Whose to say they'll release all the post-Naxx PvE content with the shipping game? They can just stagger the release of raids with patches, a la vanilla WoW. Then no attunements, but no blitzing through all content either.
 
You people are forgetting Progression Wall bosses.
Kael/Vashj anyone? It took months for those 2 to go down and they were necessary to move on.
Razorgore and Skeram are prime examples of Progression Bosses.
No attunement was needed for AQ40 and BWL attunement was 1 UBRS run. Those instances weren't farmed by anyone other then the progression focused guilds.

You might see a world of eezimode epics, but I see a world of endless QQ.
 
a la vanilla WoW, aka the good old days

See kHayne's first paragraph.

WoW isnt the same anymore. Especially with Blizzards 'casual friendly attitude'.
Yes there will be a challenging boss ie Vashj, and there will be a walk around to that (no attuments) so you can skip x boss, and move onto y boss in z instance

Staggering the release of new content when rival MMO's are being released will be GG blizz.
 
The only real competition they face is Warhammer, which is hugely PvP focused. They have no serious contender in the PvE realm.
 
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