YouTube crawling on Openweb Uncapped Gold

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Hey guys

I have a 6 meg adsl line on Openweb gold uncapped package ( IS backbone) and find that using YouTube is impossibly slow.it takes like 20 minutes to load a 5 or 10 minute clip ( regular 360p stuff not the hd ones). Weird thing is that all other surfing is quick! Even speed tests give me good results. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? I would think on a gold uncapped package that YouTube wouldn't be shaped that heavily.
 
Ice2Cool said:
Hey guys

I have a 6 meg adsl line on Openweb gold uncapped package ( IS backbone) and find that using YouTube is impossibly slow.it takes like 20 minutes to load a 5 or 10 minute clip ( regular 360p stuff not the hd ones). Weird thing is that all other surfing is quick! Even speed tests give me good results. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? I would think on a gold uncapped package that YouTube wouldn't be shaped that heavily.
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Yes, for ages.. especially on Vodacom and IS backbones. Web Africa (DSL Heaven) generally is better.

Pro tip: Get Firefox, get these addons: Easy Youtube Downloader and get Downthemall addons and you'll notice you can download them at more or less full line speed using DTA (multiple connections). Obviously that negates the whole point of broadband but at least it's better than buffering.

I've since given up trying to use Youtube like it's supposed to be.
 
nihilist said:
Yes, for ages.. especially on Vodacom and IS backbones. Web Africa (DSL Heaven) generally is better.

Pro tip: Get Firefox, get these addons: Easy Youtube Downloader and get Downthemall addons and you'll notice you can download them at more or less full line speed using DTA (multiple connections). Obviously that negates the whole point of broadband but at least it's better than buffering.

I've since given up trying to use Youtube like it's supposed to be.
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On DSL-Heaven I can stream a Youtube vid at 90-100KBps (1Mb line).
 
froot said:
On DSL-Heaven I can stream a Youtube vid at 90-100KBps (1Mb line).
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So can I.. on a 4meg line. That is the problem, ie: not max speed. But often it's much, much slower for me. Was perfectly fine on Mweb when I did testing. Front page Youtube vids are good, it's the non-locally cached viddies that are the fail most of the time on VB/IS.
 
ha! I was getting like 12KB/s - video timed out most of the time.
 
Is this a recent issue ? How long have you had Youtube issues?
 
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Ah, thought it was only me. My YouTube has been flawless for as long as I can remember until sometime last night when it started playing up randomly. Was buffering on 240p videos today also which is weird. These things usually sort themselves out though (I hope :) )
 
Don't know how many of you dial up your pppoe adsl account on windows directly, but if you do, chances are your windows is establishing a teredo ipv6 tunnel, and it seems google started serving youtube videos on IPv6.

What does this mean? It could be the reason your Youtube is slower than usual.

Usually I get my Youtube videos from Tenet's Google cache servers, but once IPv6 is enabled, it comes from somewhere else.

ie.
Code: 
C:\Users\Tin>ping v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com.

Pinging v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com [2800:3f0:4001:2::7] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 2800:3f0:4001:2::7: time=418ms
Reply from 2800:3f0:4001:2::7: time=420ms
Reply from 2800:3f0:4001:2::7: time=422ms
Reply from 2800:3f0:4001:2::7: time=421ms

Ping statistics for 2800:3f0:4001:2::7:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 418ms, Maximum = 422ms, Average = 420ms

SAIX Looking Glass:
Code: 
tpr-route-server>ping v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com
Translating "v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com"...domain server (196.43.45.190) [OK]

Translating "v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com"...domain server (196.43.45.190) [OK]

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 2800:3F0:4001:2::7, timeout is 2 seconds:
.....
Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)

MTN Looking Glass:
Code: 
lg2.cpt1.za#ping v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com

Translating "v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com"...domain server (196.7.0.138) [OK]

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 173.194.13.135, timeout is 2 seconds:
!!!!!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 160/160/164 ms
lg2.cpt1.za#

lg1.jnb6.za#ping v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com
Translating "v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com"...domain server (196.7.0.138) [OK]

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 2A00:1450:4004:2::7, timeout is 2 seconds:
!!!!!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 248/249/252 ms

Home PC without IPv6
Code: 
C:\Users\Tinuva>ping v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com

Pinging v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com [155.232.240.23] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 155.232.240.23: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=56
Reply from 155.232.240.23: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=56
Reply from 155.232.240.23: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=56
Reply from 155.232.240.23: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 155.232.240.23:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 8ms, Maximum = 34ms, Average = 15ms
 
Thats quite interesting. What do you mean by dial pppoe directly from windows??

Would MAC OSX have the same problem?

Tinuva said:
Don't know how many of you dial up your pppoe adsl account on windows directly, but if you do, chances are your windows is establishing a teredo ipv6 tunnel, and it seems google started serving youtube videos on IPv6.

What does this mean? It could be the reason your Youtube is slower than usual.

Usually I get my Youtube videos from Tenet's Google cache servers, but once IPv6 is enabled, it comes from somewhere else.

ie.
Code: 
C:\Users\Tin>ping v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com.

Pinging v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com [2800:3f0:4001:2::7] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 2800:3f0:4001:2::7: time=418ms
Reply from 2800:3f0:4001:2::7: time=420ms
Reply from 2800:3f0:4001:2::7: time=422ms
Reply from 2800:3f0:4001:2::7: time=421ms

Ping statistics for 2800:3f0:4001:2::7:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 418ms, Maximum = 422ms, Average = 420ms

SAIX Looking Glass:
Code: 
tpr-route-server>ping v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com
Translating "v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com"...domain server (196.43.45.190) [OK]

Translating "v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com"...domain server (196.43.45.190) [OK]

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 2800:3F0:4001:2::7, timeout is 2 seconds:
.....
Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)

MTN Looking Glass:
Code: 
lg2.cpt1.za#ping v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com

Translating "v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com"...domain server (196.7.0.138) [OK]

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 173.194.13.135, timeout is 2 seconds:
!!!!!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 160/160/164 ms
lg2.cpt1.za#

lg1.jnb6.za#ping v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com
Translating "v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com"...domain server (196.7.0.138) [OK]

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 2A00:1450:4004:2::7, timeout is 2 seconds:
!!!!!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 248/249/252 ms

Home PC without IPv6
Code: 
C:\Users\Tinuva>ping v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com

Pinging v6.lscache2.c.youtube.com [155.232.240.23] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 155.232.240.23: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=56
Reply from 155.232.240.23: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=56
Reply from 155.232.240.23: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=56
Reply from 155.232.240.23: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 155.232.240.23:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 8ms, Maximum = 34ms, Average = 15ms
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Ice2Cool said:
Thats quite interesting. What do you mean by dial pppoe directly from windows??

Would MAC OSX have the same problem?
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If you dial a connection from your computer instead of using the router... that's called a PPPoE connection.
 
Ice2Cool said:
Oh ok i didnt eve know that was possible.
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Yeah most people just let the ADSL router do the work, but you do get the cases where it is not, most notably in homes where people have multiple accounts dialed up at the same time from various pcs for whatever reason.

One I could think of is:
Router dials up slow IS uncapped account, but when the gamer wants to play WoW, he dials up his WA Unshaped account on his pc. He forgets it on, but when he browses Youtube its slow.
 
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