Youtube local?

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Hey all, I tried searching the forums for similar posts but nothing came up. Was browsing Youtube now, and everything was going through my local cap.

When did this happen? Or is there a glitch in the matrix?
 
timvdwest said:
Hey all, I tried searching the forums for similar posts but nothing came up. Was browsing Youtube now, and everything was going through my local cap.

When did this happen? Or is there a glitch in the matrix?
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What is your IP? 196.209 or 196.210 if so then its IS. IS always if you don't disconnect give you a little extra international.
 
cavedog said:
What is your IP? 196.209 or 196.210 if so then its IS. IS always if you don't disconnect give you a little extra international.
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Were you talking about a blended account? I sometimes get international on a local only account
 
Its probably IS not stopping Local VS international.
 
Yes would help indeed to know what ISP you with as well as a traceroute to a cache server.

For example:

Code: 
CORP\davidb@machine:~> traceroute v13.lscache2.c.youtube.com
traceroute to v13.lscache2.c.youtube.com (74.125.0.157), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets using UDP
 1  untangle-e1i1.wacpt.net (10.5.1.251)  0.141 ms   0.118 ms   0.118 ms
 2  e-4.lr1.hopestr.cpt.za.wacpt.net (10.254.254.254)  0.205 ms   0.185 ms   0.188 ms
 3  e-1.fr1.gw.cpt.za.wadns.net (196.220.63.237)  0.600 ms   0.564 ms   0.575 ms
 4  e-0.cr1.gw.cpt.za.wadns.net (196.220.63.225)  0.678 ms   0.652 ms   0.660 ms
 5  wa-bgp2.wadns.net (196.220.39.251)  0.856 ms   0.815 ms   0.881 ms
 6  vl100.cr1.gw.cpt.za.wa.co.za (41.185.0.1)  2.995 ms   2.403 ms   3.277 ms
 7  vl32.er.gw.cpt.za.wa.co.za (41.185.0.26)  4.425 ms vl33.er.gw.cpt.za.wa.co.za (41.185.0.30)  4.402 ms   3.420 ms
 8  upstream.vl101.gw.cpt.za.wa.co.za (196.220.59.226)  2.151 ms   3.231 ms   2.819 ms
 9  lon-ip-dir-telecity-pos-1-1-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za (196.43.9.50)  163.322 ms   162.465 ms   163.347 ms
10  221-76-245-83.packetexchange.net (83.245.76.221)  163.466 ms   163.387 ms   163.516 ms
11  209.85.252.76 (209.85.252.76)  164.593 ms 209.85.255.175 (209.85.255.175)  163.525 ms   165.763 ms
12  209.85.250.54 (209.85.250.54)  244.820 ms 216.239.43.192 (216.239.43.192)  328.428 ms 209.85.250.54 (209.85.250.54)  250.872 ms
13  209.85.255.69 (209.85.255.69)  265.611 ms   264.537 ms   242.679 ms
14  * * *
15  74.125.0.157 (74.125.0.157)  239.691 ms   240.446 ms   240.575 ms
^^ perfect example of youtube going international.
 
No youtube doesnt work on local. Must have been a glitch from your ISP that allowed you to connect to international, or as stated, you can browse international with local IS accounts sometimes
 
If YouTube did work on local only then I would need a few more 30Gb's to meet my addiction.

I just love YouTube.
 
Just tried it and its streaming from what looks like a local cache server 196.23.168.147
 
http://196.23.168.147/
Indeed =] looks like IS are (or have?) setting up a local google cache.

traceroute said:
Tracing route to za196-23-168-145.cache.googlevideo.com [196.23.168.145]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 6 ms 7 ms 7 ms 196-209-10-1-rrba-esr-3.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.209.10.1]
2 10 ms 8 ms 7 ms cdsl1-rba-vl2253.ip.isnet.net [196.38.73.181]
3 8 ms 8 ms 7 ms 196.38.73.86
4 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms cdsl1-rba-vl58.ip.isnet.net [196.38.73.81]
5 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms csw3-pkl-gi1-2.ip.isnet.net [168.209.1.201]
6 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms za196-23-168-145.cache.googlevideo.com [196.23.168.145]

Trace complete.

root@linuxfw:~ # traceroute v4.lscache8.c.youtube.com
traceroute to v4.lscache8.c.youtube.com (196.23.168.153), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 196-209-10-1-rrba-esr-3.dynamic.isadsl.co.za (196.209.10.1) 12.496 ms 16.109 ms 19.914 ms
2 cdsl1-rba-vl2360.ip.isnet.net (196.38.73.133) 13.514 ms 16.231 ms 13.994 ms
3 196.38.73.86 (196.38.73.86) 11.867 ms 9.204 ms 7.840 ms
4 cdsl1-rba-vl58.ip.isnet.net (196.38.73.81) 8.080 ms 8.230 ms 8.084 ms
5 csw3-pkl-gi1-2.ip.isnet.net (168.209.1.201) 8.601 ms 8.731 ms 8.820 ms
6 * * *^C
root@linuxfw:~ #
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196.23.168.132-196.23.168.160 are the IP's resolving to google... it's probably that whole /23 subnet, or a chunk of it at least that they're using?

This is excellent news and will have a profound impact on international bandwidth scenario. Imagine: buy a 30GB local account and enjoy browsing youtube and google (and all its other services, like Google Earth and images) at super speeds off that :) As it is I'd guess at least 70% of my international cap goes towards google-related services and Facebook... so this would be awesome.

Also going to be interesting to see what the other big IPConnect ISP's are going to do about this - I doubt Google are going to let hundreds of ISPs all have their own cache servers :P In particular, I'm anxious to see if IS and SAIX will come to some kind of agreement to have SAIX implement this into their DNS servers.

I recall seeing a similar thread last year about TENET trying to implement something similar to this. It was probably just a test, but I'm guessing that would be restricted to their network only anyway for research purposes...

So then, which ISP's is this already live for? Some of the youtube backend/"content" hostnames seem to be resolving to the local cache, but not the actual html sources like WWW.youtube.com front page - that still requires international... so it's like half-functional at this point. It seems to be working on any IS-based accounts right now which resolve using the standard IS DSL nameservers...
 
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Its a glitch on Telkom's side. I'm connected to TI local according to TItracker, however just started up my international torrents and downloading at 30kB/s. Pitty I reached my free 10GB limit, so I'll be paying for this, but hay, at R15 per GB it is still a bargain.

@timvdwest Thanks for pointing this out.
 
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willemvdm said:
Its a glitch on Telkom's side. I'm connected to TI local according to TItracker, however just started up my international torrents and downloading at 30kB/s. Pitty I reached my free 10GB limit, so I'll be paying for this, but hay, at R15 per GB it is still a bargain.
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My capped TI account is working as well:eek:. I've heard about it happening before but never to me. This is pretty cool:cool:
 
fragtion_ said:
http://196.23.168.147/
Indeed =] looks like IS are (or have?) setting up a local google cache.



196.23.168.132-196.23.168.160 are the IP's resolving to google... it's probably that whole /23 subnet, or a chunk of it at least that they're using?

This is excellent news and will have a profound impact on international bandwidth scenario. Imagine: buy a 30GB local account and enjoy browsing youtube and google (and all its other services, like Google Earth and images) at super speeds off that :) As it is I'd guess at least 70% of my international cap goes towards google-related services and Facebook... so this would be awesome.

Also going to be interesting to see what the other big IPConnect ISP's are going to do about this - I doubt Google are going to let hundreds of ISPs all have their own cache servers :P In particular, I'm anxious to see if IS and SAIX will come to some kind of agreement to have SAIX implement this into their DNS servers.

So then, which ISP's is this already live for? Some of the youtube backend/"content" hostnames seem to be resolving to the local cache, but not the actual html sources like WWW.youtube.com front page - that still requires international... so it's like half-functional at this point. It seems to be working on any IS-based accounts right now which resolve using the standard IS DSL nameservers...
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Very interesting traceroutes. That is indeed local google caching servers.
 
Hehehe, I suppose the secret is out now ;) I switched over to my TI capped account, made sure that I am logged onto local on TI tracker, and I can reach all int'l sites I tried, including Youtube :love:
 
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