Zuma bestowed with saint order

evilstebunny said:
.. and this is why we say religious folk are by & large not to be trusted and generally avoided if you live in the real world.
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But the vast majority of the world's population is religious, so that would mean that the vast majority of people are not to...

Meh, guess you're right then.
 
A corrupt and worthless organisation like the Greek Orthodox Church is just recognising one of their own type of people. Birds of a feather...
 
Fulcrum29 said:
It is estimated that ~60% of the South African population are consulted by traditional healers (or diviners). Their ancestral consciousness dictates the ancestors to be holy spirits (angels/gods) and evil spirits (demons/devils) in contrast to Christianity. I don't really know where Christianity fits into their system... The Zulus incorporated their ancestral believes into their Baptist church.

Source: Wiki / Sahistory
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One in five people in South Africa's rural areas has had first-hand experience of a human body part being trafficked after a muti killing.

And, of the body parts mentioned in their accounts, male genitals, breasts, hearts, fingers and tongues are the most commonly listed, according to research undertaken by the Human Rights League in Mozambique and supported by Childline in South Africa.
http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-afr...-of-life-in-rural-areas-1.470603#.VLyi7S4xXLV
 
If Orders and Honorary Doctorates are bestowed on unworthy recipients does it not diminish its value to previous and future recipients?
 
LaraC said:
If Orders and Honorary Doctorates are bestowed on unworthy recipients does it not diminish its value to previous and future recipients?
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Exactly. That's why no-one takes the Nobel Peace Prize seriously anymore, since it awarded to Obama for... well... no-one knows, and to that Pakistani girl for just going to school.
 
Mila said:
Churches has a history of siding with corrupt leaders. They like having money.

The question is: would you still go worship there?
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You surely got a point there. Listened yesterday to BBC World radio, a program on how the catholic church in Italy has been siding so often with the mafia. Priests were just bought by donations, and looked the other side when terrible atrocities were committed.
Present Pope was outraged when the south Italian mafia exterminated a family in a car. Several persons were shot dead at point blank range, and when the last person in the car, a child of around 5, after that, started to shout hysterically it received also a few bullets in the head. He is now trying to turn the church away from all mafia connections and cover ups.

Zuma has managed already to get several big church leaders to side with him, and give him blessings.
How spineless can church leaders be.
 
The Pope and Patriarch of the Greek Orthodox Church of Alexandria and All Africa
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Man, what a title! How would one abbreviate that? PPaGOCA&A-A?
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He's a white Flava-Flav!

I am not sure why our President would accept this bestowing as he is a Protestant...
 
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lcbxx said:
Man, what a title! How would one abbreviate that? PPaGOCA&A-A?
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He's a white Flava-Flav!

I am not sure why our President would accept this bestowing as he is a Protestant...
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Ha, that is the short version:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarch_Theodore_II_of_Alexandria

He is formally styled His Divine Beatitude the Pope and Patriarch of the Great City of Alexandria, Libya, Pentapolis, Ethiopia, All Egypt and All Africa, Father of Fathers, Pastor of Pastors, Prelate of Prelates, the Thirteenth of the Apostles and Judge of the Ecumene.
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