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Zuma lashes out at ANCYL
2012-02-23 19:04

Johannesburg - The ANC Youth League could not be separated from the ANC, President Jacob Zuma said on Thursday.

Its name was not the ANC or ANCYL, he said, in a comment which could be a reference to the league's insistence that it was autonomous.

"It is the A-N-C-Youth-League," Zuma enunciated. The same applied to the Women's League.

"Emphasis... emphasis... emphasis," he said to chortling from the delegates.

The youth were meant to help the ANC become what it was supposed to be.

"It must use its energy and influence the ANC, and not the other way around."

The energy and innovation of the youth were vital to the ANC, but their ideas should be argued through the proper structures, he said.

"If you think you are right, pursue the argument correctly within the proper structures," he said, without mentioning the possible expulsion of ANC Youth League president Julius Malema from the party.

Normal for youth to be militant

He told delegates at the National Union of Metalworkers of SA's national political commission that it was normal for the youth to be militant. However, the ANCYL was a part of the ANC, and not a separate entity.

It should present ideas to the ANC itself and within ANC structures, and unless its proposals were accepted they were not ANC policy.

"You can make the noise 24 hours, the whole year, it doesn't change the path of history."

Zuma said he was once a militant youth league member and had been part of a plan to descend on Durban's old Smith and West streets to kill white people. They had been gossiping among themselves outside meetings and decided they would buy bush knives and descend on the two streets at about 11:00 on a Saturday when it was busy.


"We are going to butcher them... And the leaders will come and lead the revolution," Zuma recalled, during a speech that was off-the-cuff for much of the two hours it lasted. At the last minute they decided to tell ANC leaders they were about to start a revolution.

"Hey, these guys are planning to start a revolution with bush knives," he recalled of the conversation.

Youth make mistakes

However, the youths got such a tongue-lashing they slunk away and abandoned their plan. People made mistakes.

"If they don't make mistakes they are not the youth," he said.

Youths were vocal because of the problems the country faced. And if they felt they were right they should pursue their arguments correctly within the proper structures.


"But they must be disciplined," Zuma said.

The youth league was established because the ideas of the youth were important, he continued.

"They bring militancy, energy, energy, everything."

Former president Nelson Mandela was also very militant when he was younger, he said, but he had the gift of knowing what was incorrect before others realised it. He would meet a person for tea and discussions if there was a difference of opinion.

Peter Mokaba, a former ANCYL leader and also considered militant, would spend sleepless nights preparing documents he hoped would change the leadership's view on something.

"That's the way you do it," he said.

At the same time, he encouraged the union to get representation on the ANC's national executive committee so workers' ideas could be represented there.

"The fact that the leaders of the union are not on the NEC is a shortcoming. How do you influence policy when you are not at the centre [of where decisions are made]?"

On leaving, Zuma shook hands with people lining his path and his bodyguards gave delegates some leeway in allowing for quick poses for photographs.
- SAPA

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Politics/Zuma-lashes-out-at-youth-league-20120223

zuma, so now are you encouraging ancyl to kill whites? :sick:
 
That comment right there is everything that is wrong with this country.

"Nelson Mandela was also very militant when he was younger"

There, now Mandela is also a terrorist.

Wtf dude? read within the context.

everything is wrong in this country under anc "ruling". (not governing)
if you ask me I see the regime now is nothing different from apartheid (worse than)

read it between the lines!!!! you never find any answer if you can only read the words that written on the paper. see what zuma means for saying that! anc is an terrorism organization to promote hatred against races. for past 20 years anc has been praising those terrorists to be a "freedom fighters". do you think that it is necessary in a civilized and democratic society?
 
everything is wrong in this country under anc "ruling". (not governing)
if you ask me I see the regime now is nothing different from apartheid (worse than)

read it between the lines!!!! you never find any answer if you can only read the words that written on the paper. see what zuma means for saying that! anc is an terrorism organization to promote hatred against races. for past 20 years anc has been praising those terrorists to be a "freedom fighters". do you think that it is necessary in a civilized and democratic society?

Can I borrow your tin hat or drugs from you?
Also, did you notice patterns everywhere? If so, I think they know! Run! :eek:
 
"random killing innocent people" is not terrorism, so what is terrorism?



I am afriad because he really was a terrorist. :)

Well if your definination of a terrorist is killing random people, surely the nats were terrorists as well.

Goodness me if i was black and grew up back in the day i would have also wanted to slaughter whites, if we all sit back and think about mandela and what we would have done i think mandela is nothing but a hero. I would more than likely have slaughtered all the whites once i came to power or at the very minimum i would have ensured their lives were hell but mandela came out and wanted peace.

Absolute fking legend if you ask me.
 
Well if your definination of a terrorist is killing random people, surely the nats were terrorists as well.

Goodness me if i was black and grew up back in the day i would have also wanted to slaughter whites, if we all sit back and think about mandela and what we would have done i think mandela is nothing but a hero. I would more than likely have slaughtered all the whites once i came to power or at the very minimum i would have ensured their lives were hell but mandela came out and wanted peace.

Absolute fking legend if you ask me.


Don't want to discuss this(in this thread), but just to mention. Mandela didn't really have a choice, but to come out wanting peace.
 
Don't want to discuss this(in this thread), but just to mention. Mandela didn't really have a choice, but to come out wanting peace.

My word you people are delusional. Having 90% of your country, Russia, Cuba, half of Europe and most of Africa behind you, kinda means you do have a choice and can do what you want.

I honestly didn't want to make this thread about Mandela though, I just used it as an example.
 
Well if your definination of a terrorist is killing random people, surely the nats were terrorists as well.

Goodness me if i was black and grew up back in the day i would have also wanted to slaughter whites, if we all sit back and think about mandela and what we would have done i think mandela is nothing but a hero. I would more than likely have slaughtered all the whites once i came to power or at the very minimum i would have ensured their lives were hell but mandela came out and wanted peace.

Absolute fking legend if you ask me.


I agree, but I don't think Zuma should have revealed this kind of information. Its quite unsettling... stirs up the Uhuru vibe.

White people were so scared that the "communists" were going to do something like that.
 
My word you people are delusional. Having 90% of your country, Russia, Cuba, half of Europe and most of Africa behind you, kinda means you do have a choice and can do what you want.

I honestly didn't want to make this thread about Mandela though, I just used it as an example.

So having all those countries supporting you meant that Mandela could have gone on a killing spree with the ANC ? Are you seriously that delusional ? The SADF were still a force to be reckoned with back then and they would have easily beaten MK.


Also can you imagine what would have happened to the SOUTH AFRICAN ECONOMY if he started a war and whites started fleeing the country ? White people back then still controlled the economy... And as one ANC "struggle hero" said: "I didn't join the struggle to be poor"

Mandela was also being praised around the world. If he had gone to war with whites he wouldn't have had all those praise and be compared to a demigod.
 
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