Zuma refuses to hand over 'intelligence report'

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Pretoria – President Jacob Zuma has refused to urgently furnish the DA with documents, including the so-called intelligence report, on which he allegedly based his decision to fire former Minister of Finance, Pravin Gordhan and his deputy, Mcebisi Jonas.

The DA will next week turn to the High Court in Pretoria in a bid to compel Zuma to urgently hand over to it these documents.

According to the DA it needs these documents to prepare for its main application against Zuma. No date has yet been set for the main application, which was lodged two days after Zuma’s controversial decision to reshuffle his cabinet and to fire Gordhan and Jonas.

In the main application the DA is asking that Zuma’s decision to axe Gordhan and Jonas, be declared unlawful and invalid. It is also asking that the decision to replace Gordhan with Malusi Gigaba, be overturned.

It also demanded that the president had to, within a few days of its lodging its main application, hand over to the DA all relevant reports and documents on which he based his decision to fire Gordhan and Jonas.

State attorney Kantoro Chowe, who this week filed an affidavit on behalf of Zuma in the interlocutory application, said the DA did not need the information it is asking for.

“The decision by President Jacob Zuma to reshuffle the cabinet, was informed by his political judgment that the move will best deliver on the mandate of the ANC (as) received from the majority of the electorate in the last general elections,” he said in a letter attached to his affidavit.
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More at: http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/zuma-refuses-to-hand-over-intelligence-report-8839204
 
Traffic cops also don't need to know how fast I'm driving. I'll just tell them in court.
 
Difficult to hand over something that doesn't exist. Good on the DA for calling Zuma on his BS.
However I feel that this won't go anywhere. The constitution says the President can hire and fire as he sees fit. It says nothing about reasons behind it, just that he can. I think they are aiming to get the con court to eventually declare that the decision was unreasonable and un-constitutional. Which will mean nothing since JZ ignores those all the time.
 
This will be another in a growing list of court cases this inept cretin will lose.
 
Oh he has a report. Maybe it was written by the same crazy making news today as planning a massive :whistle: assassination plot?

It could al be a brilliant strategy to focus everyone's attention away from the real issues. An now the govt has suddenly got a reason for employing more blue light brigades too.

What it showed up is the hypocrisy present in SA.
 
Pox said:
Difficult to hand over something that doesn't exist. Good on the DA for calling Zuma on his BS.
However I feel that this won't go anywhere. The constitution says the President can hire and fire as he sees fit. It says nothing about reasons behind it, just that he can. I think they are aiming to get the con court to eventually declare that the decision was unreasonable and un-constitutional. Which will mean nothing since JZ ignores those all the time.
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It is true that he can select his own cabinet members. However, if he used a fabricated report to try and justify it to other ANC members, then it is just another example of his sad lack of integrity, and would help in the vote of no confidence.
 
Splinter said:
It is true that he can select his own cabinet members. However, if he used a fabricated report to try and justify it to other ANC members, then it is just another example of his sad lack of integrity, and would help in the vote of no confidence.
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As you point out, he reportedly justified it to the ANC that way. My question is that, cabinet appointments being the President's prerogative and all, is there legislation that says he must get to the decision in a particular way?
 
sox63 said:
As you point out, he reportedly justified it to the ANC that way. My question is that, cabinet appointments being the President's prerogative and all, is there legislation that says he must get to the decision in a particular way?
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As far as I understand it, it is the presidents prerogative. But we saw what happened after Nenegate; he was trying to justify his state capture efforts again. Far may he fall.
 
sox63 said:
As you point out, he reportedly justified it to the ANC that way. My question is that, cabinet appointments being the President's prerogative and all, is there legislation that says he must get to the decision in a particular way?
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No there is no such legislation, but if the appointments are illogical, people start losing confidence in you.
 
ponder said:
Where are the 'spy tapes'?
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The Democratic Alliance on Thursday welcomed the Supreme Court of Appeal's decision to hear the appeal from both President Jacob Zuma and that of the National Prosecuting Authority against the reinstatement of 783 criminal charges against him, on the same day.
The court gave Zuma and the NPA until June 5, to file their heads of argument.
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http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/sca-to-hear-appeal-by-zuma-npa-in-spy-tapes-case-jointly-8744152
 
What will be funny is if we can get hands on the original printed report that Zuma showed to the Top 6. It will be a bit awkward if the fonts used in the report are the same as the ones used for the letters sent to the Guptas and other companies by Elvis Ramosebudi.
 
Arguments to be heard in DA’s urgent application to compel Zuma for reasons for Cabin

Pretoria – The High Court in Pretoria is on Thursday expected to hear arguments in the Democratic Alliance’s urgent application to compel President Jacob Zuma to supply his record of decision for his Cabinet reshuffle in March.

The Democratic Alliance filed an urgent application with the court on April 24, to force President Jacob Zuma to give reasons for reshuffling his Cabinet on March 31.

DA chairperson James Selfe said in a statement that the party had asked the court to force Zuma to provide a written record of the decision, and reasons for the reshuffle.

But State Attorney Isaac Chowe, in a letter responding to the DA, said the president was under no obligation to provide reasons to the DA for the Cabinet reshuffle.

Selfe said the law required the president's decisions to be "rational".

The president's decision to dismiss or appoint a minister of finance required an additional bar of rationality, Selfe said.

The midnight reshuffling saw former finance minister Pravin Gordhan axed. He was replaced by Malusi Gigaba.

Selfe said it is well known that the president was trying to get more control over the Treasury for his own gain.

News24
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/N...ma-for-reasons-for-cabinet-reshuffle-20170504
 
What gets me, is the use of ANC and Intelligence in the same sentence - the one is not like the other.
 
“The decision by President Jacob Zuma to reshuffle the cabinet, was informed by his political judgment that the move will best deliver on the mandate of the ANC (as) received from the majority of the electorate in the last general elections,” he said in a letter attached to his affidavit.
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Surely you should not make a decision like this for the interest of the ANC but rather the interest of the country?
 
Acid0 said:
Surely you should not make a decision like this for the interest of the ANC but rather the interest of the country?
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aka "Every time we reshuffle, it's another chance to try put our promises into reality... again"
 
Didnt Gordhan say that he saw and read the report and said it was absolute nonsense?
 
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