Zuma 'should be forgiven'

blueghost_39 said:
True , but people tend to generalize .... and conveniently forget that the pre-1994 Government wasn't a model of accountability as well ;)
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Agreed, however if we are always going to compare to past wrongs, then we will excuse all future wrong doings, how about turning over a new leaf, like we should be doing in the "new SA"
 
blueghost_39 said:
Amazing how many people are crying for JZ to be punished for his escapades.
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Perhaps what his own party is saying will give you an idea -

Senior ANC members in Gauteng, North West, Mpumalanga and Eastern Cape who spoke to The Times yesterday said while they accepted Zuma's apology, there was a growing call within party structures for him to step down as president of the party when his term ends in 2012.

Look, what assurances do we have that we are not going to be hit by another scandal involving our president?" asked a senior ANC official in Gauteng

Mzimkulu Khohlakala of the Witzenberg branch said he had not received the apology from Zuma that he was waiting for: "It's a problem for the nation, the president needs to lead by example and condomise."

What he should apologise for is the fact that he has opened the door for our democracy to be hijacked by people who want to hide behind culture to justify their selfish and predatory practices.

The ladies in taxis and the men who load and unpack merchandise are disgusted with a president who - for the second known time - has slept with the child of one of his friends.
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daveza said:
Perhaps what his own party is saying will give you an idea -
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thanks for the article - appreciated.

mac_mac74 said:
ironically, they were so bad, but they are used as a yardstick!!!!
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see my comment regarding me growing up in the post 1994 SA - glad that I wasn't indoctrinated by the NP - but this is the problem with some people suffering from a power loss syndrome.

Yeah my parents grew up in the pre-1994 era - and the previous Government did a good job wrt issues like infrastructure / economics / military etc (providing the power base we have now) but on some issues the NP Government sucked @ss - and the ANC Government isn't perfect as well !

Governments will never be perfect - and with the white / black relation issue we have in SA - things are made so much more difficult for SA.

One should not be kept backwards by a minority trying to cling to pwer - although they have the right to voice their opinion - but one should live forwards.

Keep the past in mind when preparing for the future for the good of all citizens IMO.
 
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@blueghost.
most nations don't care what the president does in his spare time.
but when a fifth of the people are dying of aids, it's a different story.

the pre-94 government was not democratically elected and did not answer or account to the nation as a whole.
it's called an autocracy.

in a democracy, the leader is accountable to his/her electorate - i.e. the majority of the population.
this can and must never be forgotten, as it has so easily been in other parts of our continent.

i agree that nobody is perfect, but if a leader fails in a critical area of leadership, that should disqualify them from leading in that area.
the point is that the area he has failed in is pretty critical for this country's future.
it could tip the scales from making a moral offence a near-criminal one.
it's an area that the leadership of this country have failed in badly over the last few years.
and it literally is an issue of life and death.
 
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blueghost_39 said:
crying for JZ to be punished for his escapades. Nobody is perfect.
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escapades??? A tally of seven hundred plus criminal charges is a bit more than an escapade and he should be rotting in jail next to Shabby Shake.

I have no problem with his promiscuous lifestyle because he is actually following the Government line anyway.

Promiscuity in SA has the active encouragement of the ANC Govt who pays young girls R240 per month per child (to a maximum of six) to get pregnant in the first place.
 
Long story short...I think most of us know why this "Die My Beloved Country" is going down the drain...no need to have a high IQ to figure this one out...
 
blueghost_39 said:
Amazing how many people are crying for JZ to be punished for his escapades.

Well I am sure that JZ isn't the first politician to father a child out of wedlock.

Grow up people - open your eyes ......

Forgive JZ - he , you and I are only human.

Nobody is perfect.
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And then you get those that are very far from perfect, and it's in that category that AIDS shower boy Zuma, the rapist of our justice system, falls.

He is totally immoral and should never have been consider for office, let alone the head (Richard Head) of the country.
 
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