Zuma's brood getting bigger?

Zuma's wife is having a baby and I'm sure quite chuffed about it. But prudish Johnny Coloniast here doesn't like the way the natives do things so we should scoff at their dirty ways ?

Go back to Europe. South Africa , one of the most diverse countries in the world, has many cultures. People who lack tolerance of others will not be happy here.

Can the women have multiple husbands?

Culture does not get an automatic free pass, especially when the citizens of this country are the people paying for Zuma, his wives, his children and his mistresses to live lives of opulence.

I guess you are also cool with fanatical maniacs who stomp their daughters to death for disobeying them, also in the name of culture? Or using body parts for medicine? Or killing rhinos for their horns? Or hating on homosexuals?

**** culture, if it intrudes on the rights of others.

:rolleyes:
 
Yes, and?

Debatable though, can you point me in the direction of the president of a democratic country who has a handful of wives and a seeming multitude of kids with different women?

Paul Kruger, had 13 children and 2 wifes, President of the ZAR, also a hero
Paul Kruger and his small family later returned to Rustenburg and Kruger's wife and infant son died soon after. It is presumed the double death is likely to have been caused by Malaria. Paul Kruger then married Gezina du Plessis, who bore seven daughters and nine sons and died in 1901. Many of Kruger's children died in infancy.
King Henry the 8th - lets be glad zuma didn't treat his marriages like this man did!\
Marthin Luther King - another adulter, didn't have as many children though
We already mentioned Bil Clinton and Monica ( I guess old William knew how to use a condom though)
 
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Paul Kruger, had 13 children and 2 wifes, President of the ZAR, also a hero
King Henry the 8th - lets be glad zuma didn't treat his marriages like this man did!\
Marthin Luther King - another adulter, didn't have as many children though
We already mentioned Bil Clinton and Monica ( I guess old William knew how to use a condom though)

I assumed the 'contemporary' would have gone without saying.

In a world with AIDS, I don't find his behaviour acceptable.

If you are happy with it, that's okay. *shrug*

As for Bill Clinton, I really don't see the purpose of that connection. I am not claiming people in power have to have perfect track records, I am not that naive.
 
Can the women have multiple husbands?

Culture does not get an automatic free pass, especially when the citizens of this country are the people paying for Zuma, his wives, his children and his mistresses to live lives of opulence.

I guess you are also cool with fanatical maniacs who stomp their daughters to death for disobeying them, also in the name of culture? Or using body parts for medicine? Or killing rhinos for their horns? Or hating on homosexuals?

**** culture, if it intrudes on the rights of others.

:rolleyes:

Well-said :)
 
Zuma's wife is having a baby and I'm sure quite chuffed about it. But prudish Johnny Coloniast here doesn't like the way the natives do things so we should scoff at their dirty ways ?

Go back to Europe. South Africa , one of the most diverse countries in the world, has many cultures. People who lack tolerance of others will not be happy here.

Ummmm, she is his mistress not his wife (yet). And it's their SECOND child.

Read the article before commenting.
 
Paul Kruger, had 13 children and 2 wifes, President of the ZAR, also a hero
King Henry the 8th - lets be glad zuma didn't treat his marriages like this man did!\
Marthin Luther King - another adulter, didn't have as many children though
We already mentioned Bil Clinton and Monica ( I guess old William knew how to use a condom though)


Paul Kruger and his small family later returned to Rustenburg and Kruger's wife and infant son died soon after. It is presumed the double death is likely to have been caused by Malaria. Paul Kruger then married Gezina du Plessis, who bore seven daughters and nine sons and died in 1901. Many of Kruger's children died in infancy.

Reading, education and thinking is not big in your culture...

As for William, getting impregnated from a bj, is not very common.
 
:rolleyes:



Firstly, I am not married.

Secondly, I do not need to do or say things merely to appease my GF. We tend to allow each other to have our own opinions on things and to express these opinions, even if these may differ. Try it.

lol
And then you come here to try and force your opinion down people's throats.
You ever won a debate on this forum?
 
Paul Kruger and his small family later returned to Rustenburg and Kruger's wife and infant son died soon after. It is presumed the double death is likely to have been caused by Malaria. Paul Kruger then married Gezina du Plessis, who bore seven daughters and nine sons and died in 1901. Many of Kruger's children died in infancy.

Reading, education and thinking is not big in your culture...

As for William, getting impregnated from a bj, is not very common.

he ended up with 13 in total, many also died in the concentration camps, I don't see how you draw the reading thinking and educating thing... but sure I take it from where it comes from :)
 
Going back over 100 years to find a local example? That's stretching it a bit.

I am sure there are many zulu chiefs who had followed the same lifestyle as Zuma did, regardless how many men on this forum can still do what Zuma does at his age? And no the polygamy doesn't bother me one bit, whether I have to pay for Zuma's children, Jacky selebi's prison fees or PW's house loan at 'die anker'. It all goes for a politician regardless....
 
Jacob Zuma to become a father for the 22nd time after he has wed his next wife

Bongiwe Gloria Ngema, who recently accompanied Mr Zuma on a state visit to China, is expecting a child early next year, according to media reports citing her close friends. The pair already have one child and are due to marry in December, which will bring to four the number of South Africa's First Ladies.

Reports of the pregnancy comes only a fortnight after the arrival of Mr Zuma's 21st child, which was born to the second of his current wives.

The boy, named Manqoba Kholwani which means "believe it", arrived amid claims that he could be the result of an affair between his mother and her bodyguard. The president has dismissed the claims as malicious rumours.

Now aged 68, Mr Zuma has faced repeated calls to live a quieter life and devote more of his energies to leading his country out of the griding poverty which confronts the majority of the population.

Mr Zuma's advisers insist that, as a proud Zulu, his culture permits him to have as many children as he wants with as many partners as he likes. However, the president was forced to make a humiliating apology earlier this year following the birth, out of wedlock, of his 20th child to the daughter of a family friend.

While polygamy is accepted in South Africa, the spiralling cost to the taxpayer of Mr Zuma's cultural observance has led to bitter clashes between the president's ruling African National Congress and the leading opposition party. News of yet another child and another marriage is bound to reignite the debate.

Taxpayers are already spending more than £1.3m a year to support Mr Zuma's current wives and some of his children. Generous friends are also known to help "sponsor" additional costs which do not have to be declared in public.

The "presidential spousal budget", which had doubled in the space of a year, was condemned as "exorbitant" by the opposition leader, Helen Zille. This prompted a sharp riposte from the ANC which accused Ms Zille, who is white, of "cultural intolerance".

The spousal office, which organises access to the president for his wives and fiancée, also pays for the women's personal support staff, such as secretaries and researchers, as well as domestic and international air travel and accommodation.

Mobile phones for the consorts and their secretaries, laptops and printers and a special daily allowance for "incidental" expenses are also covered.

"It is impossible for anyone, even on a president's salary, to look after a family of the size of Zuma's without relying extensively on private benefactors and the taxpayers' money," Mrs Zille said.

Source: Telegraph

Bwahahaha @ bolded bit. Zuma at least seems to have some sense of humour :p
 
the dude can sleep with as many women as he wants and have as many kids as he wants.
ultimately he's making his own bed.
but i'm only willing to pay for one on my tax dollar.

i don't think it's an optimal parenting strategy, or optimal in terms of hiv infection risks given his track record.
you've got to wonder how many other people he's sleeping with if we only ever hear of the ones which result in children.
i'd be surprised if his willy doesn't drop off within the next five years.
hopefully he ends his term before the std's set in and he ends up like henry 8 or zimbob.
 
LOL!!
The spousal office, which organises access to the president for his wives and fiancée, also pays for the women's personal support staff, such as secretaries and researchers, as well as domestic and international air travel and accommodation.

Does the office keep a schedule?
Monday.. Tuesday.. Wed.. access to the president!! Ha.. Ha..
Siestog! Zzzzzzuma die bytjie.. :p
 
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