Neotel discusses Fibre to the Home

Sounds like we have a Second Network Operator that is only interested in cherry picking the market. Pity Telkom beat them to it.

It's as if Neotel has no interest in actually building last mile infrastructure in the residential market.

The supposed cautious approach to licensing land line operators and TV broadcasters has been an abject failure. It would have been better to dish out licenses like candy and let real competition force companies to build infrastructure, bring new products to market and force down prices.
 
Sounds to me more like FTTH non-plans!

Despite all the new technologies available, I still think LLU is the only way we (the residential market) is going to see a practical way to get competitive services. Copper may not be as great as fibre, but it's already there, already paid for, and works.
 
They don't really need to run Fibre all the way to each home
they just need to get rid of the long copper run from the Telkom box on each street to the exchange

if they run fibre to each Telkom box on each street and put a neotel box they could just take the copper running to the house and connect it into their box (obviously after LLU)
the problem is the long run of copper which they replace with fibre

you no longer have copper runs of 3Km +
 
Not really any plans - not really creative, not looking for one or more of the many i-ECNS license holders to partner with to create the infrastructure or supply it.\
Neotel = Weak, lame, SNBO (Second National Business Operator)
 
Argus is right. The same reason that no one is running their own copper to homes right now, is it just would not make business sense. The same applies to fibre. The return you would get from a residential customer will never pay back the capital you put in the ground. It’s as simple as that. But if you do a combination of the two as Argus suggests it could pay off. For decent high speed ADSL you need that copper to be well under 3Km to the home, which already exists.
 
Hay said that they are looking at creative ways which may make FTTH a reality, like partnering with gated villages which may have their own fibre infrastructure over which Neotel can offer broadband services.
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I live in a gated community with FTTx, which is run by a 3rd party company, let me tell you, its anything but creative and cheap.

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/309655-SmartVillage...omg
 
Argus said:
They don't really need to run Fibre all the way to each home
they just need to get rid of the long copper run from the Telkom box on each street to the exchange

if they run fibre to each Telkom box on each street and put a neotel box they could just take the copper running to the house and connect it into their box (obviously after LLU)
the problem is the long run of copper which they replace with fibre

you no longer have copper runs of 3Km +
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This makes more sense than FTTH (for now). With short copper loops, we can still get some pretty decent speeds, especially if we use VDSL or something.
 
I'm still wondering how the DoC spokesman got the figure of R10 000 per installation per household that was quoted in an article late last year (it is here somewhere on MyBB!). At the time most of us here scoffed at the amount and it appears that Angus Hay agrees with us. FttH is NOT cheap.
 
RPM obviously headhunted someone from News24 - there is little correlation between the article's headline and contents.
 
Argus said:
They don't really need to run Fibre all the way to each home
they just need to get rid of the long copper run from the Telkom box on each street to the exchange

if they run fibre to each Telkom box on each street and put a neotel box they could just take the copper running to the house and connect it into their box (obviously after LLU)
the problem is the long run of copper which they replace with fibre

you no longer have copper runs of 3Km +
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Sound idea but it is even simpler...

It need not be to EVERY Telkom box on every corner but only from the exchanges to the UMC's or remote Concentrators. From there to the SDC's (street distribution cabinet) it will still be copper as well as from the SDC to the customer.
 
Yet ANOTHER pathetic "business model" by NeoTel, this company is completely hopeless. It's time to fold and be bought out by Mweb, that's it.
 
Argus said:
They don't really need to run Fibre all the way to each home
they just need to get rid of the long copper run from the Telkom box on each street to the exchange

if they run fibre to each Telkom box on each street and put a neotel box they could just take the copper running to the house and connect it into their box (obviously after LLU)
the problem is the long run of copper which they replace with fibre

you no longer have copper runs of 3Km +
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Nice idea, except when you live in an area plagued by copper theft (like I do) >.<
 
This is rather an odd article, yes. It basically says that Neotel has plans, but not now.. :wtf:

Just thinking now, Stellenbosch University's speeds are incredibly fast (I'll have to look at the exact speed somewhere in an email). They started using Neotel for their network last year and boy oh boy...

But all in all it really does make sence, it is very expensive and I understand that, but why then even mention plans?

PS> I see Telkom rolling it out with our tax money sometime next year and then Neotel and everyone will have to go on that again (so what's the point of Neotel being here again?)
 
Use it once (in year one)
Use it twice (in year two)

Somebody take their license away. (Lose it!)
 
p[ay3r said:
PS> I see Telkom rolling it out with our tax money sometime next year and then Neotel and everyone will have to go on that again (so what's the point of Neotel being here again?)
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I'm confused. You appear to be muddling up existing copper network with a new rollout of a fibre network. How will your tax money be paying for it?
 
"Hay did however indicate that the fact that they will not invest in a residential fibre access network does not discount other FTTH business models which make more financial sense."
I hope this guy didnt go get a degree to figure this one out.
 
jes said:
Nice idea, except when you live in an area plagued by copper theft (like I do) >.<
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Unfortunately fibre are these days also a target.

Have family just outside Pretoria which are now left without any Telkom infrastructure. Had copper lines but were stolen every few months. Then migrated to fibre and got stolen again twice at which point Telkom gave up hope of supporting the cummunity. The rumours are that the kevlar in the fibre has got some excellent alternative uses
 
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