Local Loop Unbundling: Please give your feedback

What form/s of Local Loop Unbundling do you realistically favour in SA?

  • Full local loop unbundling (full access)

    Votes: 570 90.5%
  • Sub-loop unbundling

    Votes: 247 39.2%
  • Line sharing (shared access to the local loop)

    Votes: 196 31.1%
  • Bitstream access (wholesale access)

    Votes: 216 34.3%

  • Total voters
    630

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ICASA recently unveiled their Local Loop Unbundling (LLU) discussion document, and invited the public to participate and comment on the document.

As part of the document, ICASA outlined four potential Local Loop Unbundling options: full local loop unbundling (full access); line sharing (shared access to the local loop); sub-loop unbundling; and bitstream access (wholesale access).

ICASA asked the public and stakeholders: What form of Local Loop Unbundling do stakeholders realistically favour in the South African market?

MyBroadband partnered with Ellipsis Regulatory Solutions to make it easier for consumers to give their views and have their voice heard in the regulatory matter.

It should be noted that the various forms of LLU are not mutually exclusive, and full unbundling, sub-loop unbundling, line sharing and bitstream access can be concurrently implemented.

You can therefore select more than one form or LLU to be implemented, and even all four forms if you feel it is the best route to follow.

It is preferable that you tell us why you selected certain options, and also the reasons behind not selection certain options (if relevant).

Please give your views in this thread and vote in the poll above



LLU Options Explained

Full local loop unbundling (full access): operators will be given access to Telkom’s ‘raw copper’, and can therefore use their own technologies using the copper local loop.

Sub-loop unbundling: this allows operators to gain access to the copper at a primary connection point at street level.

Line sharing: Telkom will keep using the local loop to offer land-line telephone services, but unbundle the higher frequencies available on the copper cable for Digital Subscriber Line (DSL) services.

Bitstream access: this is essentially a wholesale data service. Four different Bitstream options were previously highlighted, including the resale of local traffic services, bitstream with collocation, bitstream without collocation and the resale of access services.
 
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I would like to see All 4 options of LLU mentioned in the document to be implemented by ICASA.

Full LLU is needed to ensure that other operators have the option of investing in new technologies and offer new services (like 20Mbps ADSL2+).

Bitstream Access is needed to make it easier for smaller players to get access to more affordable wholesale ADSL products and develop their own ADSL products without large up-front investments.

ICASA can lay down time frames for the implementation of the different forms of LLU – hence immediate Bitsream access, working up to full LLU in future.
 
I voted for everything *but* line sharing. Implemented in conjunction with the other options it's viable, but on it's own it leaves the consumer with the unwelcome requirement of having to still pay Telkom for the copper line as a prerequisite for ADSL.
 
Part of the conundrum is that Telkom would lose what little motivation they still have, to upgrade and maintain existing infrastructure. If left to SPs, that's fine for areas with higher client-density, but anyone living in a sparsely populated area is screwed, in effect, as nobody would worry about him. Some accompanying regulation with regards to acceptable service levels, would need to be discussed as well.
 
I voted for everything.

1. Full loop unbundling in cases where it makes sense to hand the local loop over to somebody else.
2. Sub loop unbundling in cases where companies does not have enough money to buy the local loop outright from Telkom.
3. Line sharing - where it's not economically feasible to do sub of full.
4. Bitstream access - as said in the OP.
 
I voted for Full Local Loop unbundling.
If Malema wants to Nationalise everything would this not be the logical option. :-)
 
At the end of the day, it's not the real issue. The real issue is access to the International links. We can run 1Gbps all day between JHB and CTN, but if we are strangled on the undersea cables, what's the point?
 
Will ISP's take on the task of fixing line breakages, and hardware faults on your DSLAM port, should it be necessary?
Or will this still fall on Telkom? Or will Telkom be outsourced to fix physical faults?

Either way, we're still stuck with Telkom, regardless of which option prevails...
 
My only concern would be that who takes care of the maintenance and uptime of the lines if telkom decides to open up access? They would surely not be footing the maintenance bill themselves.
Even though the current situation with Telkom is not ideal, we at least have somebody to go to when the line goes down. Maybe I just dont understand the situation...
 
LOL, my thoughts exactly!

Will ISP's take on the task of fixing line breakages, and hardware faults on your DSLAM port, should it be necessary?
Or will this still fall on Telkom? Or will Telkom be outsourced to fix physical faults?

Either way, we're still stuck with Telkom, regardless of which option prevails...
 
The complete unbundling of the loop would be the best thing to happens to SA in a long time. The question that however arises is who is going to maintain these lines. What I would suggest is that your chosen service provider be contracted to do line maintenance whilst you employ their services. Once you move to another company, the upkeep of the line becomes hte responsibility of the new service provider. In this way, we can ensure that lines are kept in good condition regardless of which company provides the service. Another way this can be handled is to sub-contract Telkom for the upkeep of the lines. Therefor you ensure that one company does not compromise the quality of another company's lines. Hopefully now the ADSL + telephone line rental would be dropped and we'll see much more competition in the broadband arena.
 
I'm going with Full Local Loop Unbundling because I see no reason for Telkom to hold onto any aspect of the line. I would ideally like to someday pay for naked ADSL from a provider of my choice.
 
I voted for Full and Bitstream.
The real problem if deciding who will be responsible for what part/fault if things are shared, so Bitstream is better (Telkom's infrastructure support for most part is excellent)
On the other end most of the copper infrastructure in SA was payed for by the tax payers before Telkom was privatised, so it is only fare to give all ISPs access to it.
 
I must say;

Do you expect Telkom to pleasantly surprise you? :)
 
I don't understand the difference between local and sub loop unbundling. Sorry for being so dof. Can any explain this in a bit more detail?
 
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