RICA and the tracking of scammers

In a country without corruption going all the way to the top I would agree.
 
What a chop! .. tracability to the last meter has nothing to do with Rica at all. Rica merely links a sim with an address, and the info's only reliable for law-abiding citizens who would never steal a cellphone or do crime anyway. The low-life crimbos just faked it like the thousands of border-hoppers who has no green ID book did by asking a friend to do it, or getting a letter from their local corner cafe or something.

Plus, there's no provision in Rica for change of ownership so the info's already outdated. Anyway, only an ignorant fool would welcome a government like ours who embraces crime in every way having the ability to trace people down to the last meter.
 
uhm somebody opened a MTN account in my name...payslip...proof of residence....fake ID....

pft...RICA is so easy to bypass
 
THe tracking of my movements is a blatant invasion of my privacy.
 
dews said:
THe tracking of my movements is a blatant invasion of my privacy.
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Well if you are involved in a crime and they have a court order then it's in the public's best interest to know your movements.

Reading the comments here, I seriously wonder which side of the law some of the members here sit.
 
I wonder if there is a black market for RICA'ed sims that is untraceable?

I guess there is as I could have had 2 right now that was fully rica'ed and working but not traceable to my name. They belonged to visitors from USA. Friends that came to visit, I guess you can find many more of them if you tried. They used a letter from the Hotel and US passports to get the cards and when they left after the 2 week stay left the cards behind. I did my normal part by cutting them up but I am sure someone can just as easy sell them to crime syndicates.

Also the fact that criminals can easily bribe someone to RICA cards to incorrect data as well as having some of the systems in their possession, makes me think its another one of those laws that punish the innocent while the guilty goes free.
 
Fudzy said:
Well if you are involved in a crime and they have a court order then it's in the public's best interest to know your movements.

Reading the comments here, I seriously wonder which side of the law some of the members here sit.
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Utter kaka
 
Fudzy said:
Well if you are involved in a crime and they have a court order then it's in the public's best interest to know your movements.

Reading the comments here, I seriously wonder which side of the law some of the members here sit.
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Just one problem here is that the "law" is dynamic and the side with all those nasty criminals in it is growing by the day. Soon enough almost anyone can be seen as on the "wrong side of the law". And a lot of the times the law is on the side of big corporate types who has the most buying power instead of actually serving the common people.
 
Aah, the sweet smell of totalitarianism.... When will we ever learn? Fascist control like this always end up being used to squash political dissent and freedom, and is never about crime.
 
garp said:
Aah, the sweet smell of totalitarianism.... When will we ever learn? Fascist control like this always end up being used to squash political dissent and freedom, and is never about crime.
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^ This
 
garp said:
Aah, the sweet smell of totalitarianism.... When will we ever learn? Fascist control like this always end up being used to squash political dissent and freedom, and is never about crime.
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Control?!?!?!
 
Fudzy said:
Control?!?!?!
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Yes, control. We are controlled by the state into registering our identity in order to use our personal communication devices, regardless of whether we are suspected of a crime, and without a reasonable explanation for this requirement, apart from some vague mutterings about fighting crime. Of course, anyone really perpetrating criminal acts would not comply with this requirement. Do you know who has access to your RICA information, or who might potentially be able to track your movements, or why they may need to do so?
 
garp said:
Yes, control. We are controlled by the state into registering our identity in order to use our personal communication devices, regardless of whether we are suspected of a crime, and without a reasonable explanation for this requirement, apart from some vague mutterings about fighting crime. Of course, anyone really perpetrating criminal acts would not comply with this requirement. Do you know who has access to your RICA information, or who might potentially be able to track your movements, or why they may need to do so?
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The mind boggles as to why they would want to do that to me. I assume you don't used fixed line communication then?
 
Fudzy said:
The mind boggles as to why they would want to do that to me...
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Try dissenting against the state and you will find out very quickly!

I was under surveillance by the sekerheids-polisie for over a year before they arrested me for dissent, back in the 80s. If you somehow think the ANC is any different to the apartheid government you are very naive.
 
Fudzy said:
The mind boggles as to why they would want to do that to me. I assume you don't used fixed line communication then?
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Problem is if they wanted to do something to you they will know your exact moves since all your private information has been signed over to them. And to be honest with the ANC being as corrupt as they are and being in control of the government do we really need to wonder why they might want to do something rotten to it's citizens?
 
Valis said:
Try dissenting against the state and you will find out very quickly!

I was under surveillance by the sekerheids-polisie for over a year before they arrested me for dissent, back in the 80s. If you somehow think the ANC is any different to the apartheid government you are very naive.
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No there will ofcourse be similarities, the only things that have really changed are the race and gender laws.

To what level had you dissented, like would you consider a site like zasucks dissent?
 
Fudzy said:
No there will ofcourse be similarities, the only things that have really changed are the race and gender laws.

To what level had you dissented, like would you consider a site like zasucks dissent?
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As long as it didn't actively incite to violence, I would say ZASucks had a constitutional right to freedom of speech, regardless of how odious, or not, one might consider their message to be.

I think govt is very threatened by exposures of corruption or incompetence.

Apart from political reasons, the primary reason I fear RICA and the ability of someone, somewhere to track my every movement, is the possibility of misuse by criminals. Can you imagine the damage a crooked operator somewhere in NIS could do in collusion with a criminal syndicate?
 
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