HDMI over ethernet...

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How exactly do these work?

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Let's say for example that I run the output of an AV receiver with one of these and then extend the signal to the other side of my house - how do I actually view the content? Can I just plug it in to my pc and login to a specific IP address to view the stream, or do I need to convert it back to HDMI on the other side?

Also, how does this work with HDCP? Surely my AV receiver is doing the HDCP handshake so wherever I output to thereafter doesn't matter? My thoughts here are that I'd like to distribute the DSTV signal throughout the house, preferably wirelessly.

So I was hoping to run the output of my AV receiver into a router setup just for this. I can then login to that router's stream and view the content wirelessly. Is this even possible? If not then bloody well why not? Surely technology must have caught up to this by now...?

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It converts back to HDMI on the other end. The set includes 2 of those units.
 
So you can't actually use the ethernet part itself - you have to convert back to HDMI? Surely some smart geeks have figured out a way to utilise the ethernet signal?
 
It's not really an Ethernet signal, it just uses the same physical media. Basically just an extension cable.
 
TJ99 said:
It's not really an Ethernet signal, it just uses the same physical media. Basically just an extension cable.
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Oh okay. Pity then. So how does one go about this? I've seen HDFury but then I'm still stumped as to how I send the signal wirelessly? Any chance of this or are we naughty consumers simply not allowed to do this?
 
What TJ99 means is, you can't exactly plug these into network switches and expect them to work. You have to use a regular copper Ethernet cable that plug into both of these directly, without any switches ect in-between for it to work.
 
Tinuva said:
What TJ99 means is, you can't exactly plug these into network switches and expect them to work. You have to use a regular copper Ethernet cable that plug into both of these directly, without any switches ect in-between for it to work.
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This layman is still confused...:o
 
DJ... said:
Oh okay. Pity then. So how does one go about this? I've seen HDFury but then I'm still stumped as to how I send the signal wirelessly? Any chance of this or are we naughty consumers simply not allowed to do this?
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Not sure how you'd do it wirelessly or even if you can. Maybe someone else has tried it?
 
TJ99 said:
Not sure how you'd do it wirelessly or even if you can. Maybe someone else has tried it?
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8 years ago I had a wireless video streamer that worked for with RCA cables. I'd have thought technology would have caught up by now to do the same wirelessly. Well hoped at least...
 
DJ... you need 2 of those adapters to work. You need to have one of those adapters on either side of the Ethernet cable, e.g. one at DSTV and one at TV in another bedroom. You can't have any other network equipment on that cable either, no routers, switches, hubs. So it is not actually a network. Just a different physical cable over a much longer distance than what HDMI can achieve.

If you want to broadcast your HDMI over your LAN (via routers, hubs, switches, etc) then you need something like Aavaara or JustAddPower. There will be a transmitter unit and several receiver units.

I have been wanting to do this for a while but they are > R 4000 range mark.
 
DJ... said:
8 years ago I had a wireless video streamer that worked for with RCA cables. I'd have thought technology would have caught up by now to do the same wirelessly. Well hoped at least...
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I have one of those at the moment and when it is on my WIFI dies. I tried different channels with no luck. There are are wireless hdmi streamers (uses 60mhz band) but the signal drops drastically going through walls. So that doesn't work for me.
 
We have 3 pairs of those HDMI converters at work, for our CCTV system. 3 PCs are rack-mounted in our server room, and the HDMI signal is taken from each PC in the server room, to 3 different 32" LCD screens around the premises. The PCs are effectively viewing stations, so that live CCTV footage can be viewed in several locations around the premises.

Of those 3 pairs - 6 units in all, 4 units died, and had to be replaced (under warranty), within the space of 2 months. The ones we were supplied are really sensitive. They also tend to get very hot. Not sure if this is a problem with all HDMI extenders, or just the particular brand we were supplied with.

You also need to make use of CAT6e cabling, otherwise you will face endless signal problems. CAT5 / CAT5e is simply not good enough. Maximum distance is roughly 50-60m.

If your distance is 20m or less, rather go out and buy a 20m HDMI cable. It will save you money and tons of headaches.
 
I've been running an HDMI 'extender' for six months now. No hassles thus far.

NB: The units use a pair of CAT6 cables to function (as shown in the picture)
 
rrh said:
I've been running an HDMI 'extender' for six months now. No hassles thus far.

NB: The units use a pair of CAT6 cables to function (as shown in the picture)
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What extender are you using?
 
These guys have a rather large range of extenders,

http://www.hdcabling.co.za/hdmi-switches-extenders-c-27.html

Wireless HDMI extenders are extremely pricey but you do get them. You cannot use normally wireless ap's etc, same media as Ethernet but different protocol.

Here's a wireless extender,

http://www.hdcabling.co.za/whdi-wireless-hdmi-extender-using-wireless-technology-p-365.html

Generally they all work pretty well just the cheap ones may not handle 1080p very well.

Quick video that gives a simple explanation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdnImW-Baoo
 
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I've been using 3 sets for the past 5 years, all bought on ebay, (single cat5 cable). Never had a single problem.

There was some action developing a HDbaseT products, which was supposes to give control, hdmi, ethernet, serial and power over a ethernet cables, and the early chipsets drove the hdmi over single CAT5 converters, I think. Unfortunately, the product are ~200USD ea...

Check out http://www.avsforum.com/t/1384980/the-unoffical-source-for-everything-hdbaset..
 
Bit of a thread hijack/thread revival/

So I'm looking at doing a similar thing here, basically I want to get an HDMI signal from my PC in my study to my TV Room. The main purpose I'd want this would be to play some of my PC games on the TV as I already have an HTPC for my Series/Movies.

Does anyone know if this solution using Cat6 cables viable enough for that purpose?
 
Should be, but have you thought about how you're going to connect the kb, mouse, gamepad, whatever input peripherals? Remember USB has a max range of only a metre or two
 
YingYang said:
Should be, but have you thought about how you're going to connect the kb, mouse, gamepad, whatever input peripherals? Remember USB has a max range of only a metre or two
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I was just thinking wireless Xbox controller. It's more for those games that are ported from console or just do well with a controller. A good example I think was Tomb Raider, worked well with a controller and I benefited by playing it on my PC with TresFX :)

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igeorge said:
I've been using 3 sets for the past 5 years, all bought on ebay, (single cat5 cable). Never had a single problem.

There was some action developing a HDbaseT products, which was supposes to give control, hdmi, ethernet, serial and power over a ethernet cables, and the early chipsets drove the hdmi over single CAT5 converters, I think. Unfortunately, the product are ~200USD ea...

Check out http://www.avsforum.com/t/1384980/the-unoffical-source-for-everything-hdbaset..
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Been looking more into this. Definitely seems like the most elegant solution to my problem. Will just need to wait for the Rand to strengthen again before though but being able to push Ethernet and HDMI over 1 Cat6 cable would be fantastic.

http://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Ethernet-Extender-Cat5e-Cable/dp/B007YIV1DQ/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t

Looking at the reviews on this lil' guy, it seems to work exactly as advertised and after contacting Monoprice, they might consider shipping to South Africa.
 
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Hi guys so I am a technician in the events industry and I have been told and will be testing this method tomorrow. The original post was about streaming wirelessly to your TVs from a source so I believe this is actually possible. What I am attempting tomorrow Is running a GoPro Hero 7 into a HDMI over Cat 6 transmitter then going straight into the input source of the wireless router Via Cat 6, then connecting 4 Smart TVs to the Wireless network that should work since the source is no longer an internet connection but a video source might take some setting up on the router Side but I believe it should work with a slight of a delay. Any suggestions or advise welcome.
 
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