Web Africa’s big ADSL move

There goes good gaming latency
 
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Morning all!

What an exciting month it's going to be :)
I've taken this from our forum FAQ that I've setup.

If anyone has any questions feel free to drop us a line.
Daily/ Weekly feedback is pushed directly from our forums directly over to our Networking/ Engineering teams.

Just to confirm, we'll be migrating our Resellers to IS between today and the 8th Feb, with everyone else moving from the 26th and 28th Feb.

If you are a Reseller, we'd love to hear from our on our private Reseller section. If you don't have access yet, drop Justin or I a PM with your Web Africa forum username and account details and we'll setup access for you.

Very excited to be joining IS.

WAJeff said:
Why are we moving to IS’ network?
It’s been a long and tough decision, but we’ve decided to move over to the IS network for a number of reasons. We always enjoy passing on any savings that are available through to our customers and this is no exception.
With the new network we’ll see improved products, some changes to our existing packages and definitely more savings.

What’s happened with the Web Africa network?
After much consideration it has been decided that relying on the IS backbone as opposed to our own network will allow a lot more time for us to concentrate on our customers, support and developing our products even further.
When comparing the Web Africa network to the IS backbone, IS came out on top with their exceptional redundancy and much larger network infrastructure.

When will the network upgrade take place?
All of our ADSL accounts will be moved over to the IS network between the 26th and 28th Feb 2013.

How will this affect me?
Your internet will simply get better! The migration is planned to go off as smoothly as possible, however there may be a chance of some initial teething problems. We’ll be doing everything in our power to make sure things run as smoothly as possible.
With regards to speed, performance and everything great you’ve become so accustomed to with Web Africa, there will be no decrease in performance.

What do I do if there are issues?
We’re here to help and don’t need much sleep. You can contact us via our usual Support channels or online. We’ll be addressing everything, and in normal Web Africa style – will be transparent about everything that’s going on. We don’t like being left in the dark, so we won’t do the same to you :)

Is there any expected downtime?
We’ll be doing our absolute best to ensure as little downtime as possible. As with any large and fairly complicated move – there may be initial teething problems. We’ll be monitoring everything extremely closely, tackling any issues should they arise.

What are the initial benefits of moving to IS network?
Once our network upgrade is completed and we’ve successfully moved over to the IS network we’ll have further redundancy available to us and an overall increased network performance.

Will I need to make any technical changes on my side?
Your ADSL username and password will stay with same during and throughout the network upgrade. Your email settings can also stay the same. You can use:
  • smtp.wa.co.za
You will however need to change to the above two SMTP servers if you are using smtp.saix.net

Will concurrent connections change on capped ADSL?
Nope, we’re keeping them as is – on 4 concurrent connections for now.

Will Web Africa have a Speedtest.net server setup? Which one is the best to use to test my line speed?
We won’t be hosting a Speedtest.net server – you can use the IS Speedtest server, or any other listed.

Will the bandwidth priorities stay the same?
Yep, they’ll stay as close to the original bandwidth profiles as possible.

How does gaming perform on the IS network?
Very well from the tests we’ve run. Latency is fantastic both locally and internationally.

WAGE, Download Plus and Steam – what is happening with these services?
We’ll still be offering all of these services once the network upgrade is completed. The only major change to these will be that traffic is routed via the IS backbone as opposed to the Web Africa Network.

Will there still be a news server to use?
There will be! News.wa.co.za will no longer be in use but you are more than welcome to use the IS news server (news.isdsl.net)

How will latency perform around the country?
Previously, our main network was based in Cape Town which meant that a lot of traffic from the rest of the country (JHB, DBN, EL etc.) had to be routed via Cape Town, increasing some latency times. IS have a presence in Cape Town and Johannesburg., allowing for improved latencies

What cables do IS use to route traffic?
IS uses SAT-3, SEACOM, WACS and EASSy providing exceptional throughput and solid redundancy.
 
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If anyone has any questions feel free to drop us a line.

A few questions:

Rolling windows as before? If not can you explain the new AUP?

If I decide not to be your test bunny I presume you will not need a full months notice ie I can give notice now for the end of Feb.
If I do decide to be your test bunny will I be able to give notice in March for the end of March or will you force me into end April?
 
A few questions:

Rolling windows as before? If not can you explain the new AUP?

If I decide not to be your test bunny I presume you will not need a full months notice ie I can give notice now for the end of Feb.
If I do decide to be your test bunny will I be able to give notice in March for the end of March or will you force me into end April?

Our previous rolling windows are no more.
We've just pushed our KB article live which will have some more insights.

Everything you need to know is in the FAQ I linked here and on our forums, as well as our KB
http://support.webafrica.co.za/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/760/0/home-uncapped-qa
 
Is news.isdsl.net any good? When I used it a few years ago it was totally useless on uncached content.
 
Is news.isdsl.net any good? When I used it a few years ago it was totally useless on uncached content.

In recent months IS has put in a lot of work and our testing has shown very positive results.
 
One of the reasons I use a WebAfrica capped account was the much better than average latency to Asia - really helps for voip, skype etc. (Probably routed via SAFE?)

Will be interesting to see if this changes...
 
If you are in Cape Town, you should be routed via SAT3.

Code:
root@heaven-htpc:~# traceroute bbc.co.uk
traceroute to bbc.co.uk (212.58.241.131), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  router.heaven.za.net (10.0.0.1)  1.547 ms  1.538 ms  1.523 ms
 2  196-210-201-1.dynamic.isadsl.co.za (196.210.201.1)  20.610 ms  23.265 ms  26.051 ms
 3  196.38.72.125 (196.38.72.125)  26.435 ms  28.083 ms  28.428 ms
 4  196.35.115.136 (196.35.115.136)  29.343 ms  30.780 ms  31.740 ms
 5  core1b-ctn-gi0-1.ip.isnet.net (168.209.2.4)  33.956 ms  34.928 ms  35.894 ms
 6  168.209.201.6 (168.209.201.6)  189.691 ms  190.537 ms  190.528 ms
 7  bbc-linx.pr01.thdow.bbc.co.uk (195.66.224.103)  189.225 ms  174.568 ms  176.034 ms
 8  * * *
 9  ae1.er01.rbsov.bbc.co.uk (132.185.254.46)  162.811 ms  161.419 ms  165.500 ms
10  132.185.255.60 (132.185.255.60)  167.745 ms  168.418 ms  170.579 ms
11  virtual-vip.thdo.bbc.co.uk (212.58.241.131)  170.574 ms  170.886 ms  172.535 ms

Edit:
Nvm, saw you mentioned asia, which routes via the US. /meh
 
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This is terrible, IS has always been crap for me, the only reason I have two webafrica 30GB accounts in addition to my 10meg uncapped is because the quality of bandwidth is so much better. If WA cannot maintain their better quality than everyone else's BW then I have no use for them,
 
This is terrible, IS has always been crap for me, the only reason I have two webafrica 30GB accounts in addition to my 10meg uncapped is because the quality of bandwidth is so much better. If WA cannot maintain their better quality than everyone else's BW then I have no use for them,

IS has always been better for me. And lets not forget about the not so small matter of the price drop.
 
This is terrible, IS has always been crap for me, the only reason I have two webafrica 30GB accounts in addition to my 10meg uncapped is because the quality of bandwidth is so much better. If WA cannot maintain their better quality than everyone else's BW then I have no use for them,

IS has improved big time over the last year or so.
So much so, that WebAfrica now concedes that IS' network is better, by giving up on their own! That's gotta tell you something! :p
 
Proper Tier One

Does such a thing exist in SA ? ( apart from Telkom )

Who are the main top tier interconnection providers in SA ?

What happened to all the hype with WA about becoming such a beast ?
This whole move seems to me to be some sort of a cop-out -- gotta keep the profits up.
The story about not having countrywide POP's seems suspect to me
One wonders if WA had any interconnection agreements or presence at JINX , DINX , CINX ?

Maybe time to start thinking about a move

IS is becoming too dominant in the market !


Any more news on Level Three ?

MWeb signs agreement with Level 3 Communications

MWEB Supports Growing Demand for Online Content Across South Africa via Agreement with Level 3

Level 3 in SA: better, faster Internet promised

MWEB should be going faster better cheaper ??????

Is there a hidden shake-out going on in the SA Internet space ?????

Time for "Staff-Reporter" to start doing some proper reporting !
 
Good to see WA is finally ditching their own crappy network for something decent.

Everyone bitching about latency, IS gave me far better latencies than WA ever did.
 
Very interesting, I was a huge fan of WA back in the day but their silly rolling caps and network issues that came since they released their uncapped products chased me away. Might just return .. but Feb should be a very interesting month for ADSL ISP's with Telkom and their new TOS and Afrihost apparently getting their CPT latencies sorted out (though I don't know the latest on this and I'm not holding my breath)
 
AFter trying two different IS providers I moved to web africa due to insane daytime shaping(Unable to properly read emails or stream youtube). I will give it a chance however be warned that this was the reason I moved to web africa and if daytime performance deterioates I will have to move again.
 
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