Outdoor IP camera Advice

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Hi there

I am currently looking for a outdoor IP camera that I can set up hopefully with POE so there is only one cable.
I have looked at a couple of camera's
  • Compro iP400P
  • Intellinet NBC30-IR
  • Foscam Fi8905e Outdoor POE
  • Casey Outdoor 80m Ir Camera Vandal Resistant 700tvl Day/night Up To 80m Ir Range

Has anyone got any suggestions?
What have any of you guys set up in the past?
Don't want a DVR system just want to stream it to one of my Media PC's.

Thanks :-)
 
My IP cameras are a work in progress i have 4 ip cameras all odds and sods working with blueiris software . What i learned from the cams i bought is get the best resolution and frame rate for the money you want to spend on an IP cam. (and a decent quality to)
These guys have some decent IP cams http://www.dbg.co.za/index.php?cPath=80
I still rely on my stand alone DVR with 6 hi def analogue cams.
One of my cams is this one http://www.dbg.co.za/product_info.php?cPath=80&products_id=751 great came during the day but virtually useless at night.
 
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Look for:

Light sensitivity 0.1 lux
Infra-red leds at least 30 metres
700 lines resolution

Also get a decent power over ethernet power supply
 
Hi There,
WOuld love to advise you but cameras are not my forte.
However why not get one of the security companies out and ask them what they would use and then be technically obsessed and ask for the specs of them.
Then apply the info from chrisc4200 and FNfal and go shopping.

Regards

Tim
 
Thanks fnfal have had a look at dbg have used them for tp link stuff and they are pretty awesome.
Will have a squiz there
Thanks chris will take those specs as a base.
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Has anyone had any experience with the*Ubiquiti AirCam Outdoor IP Camera?
 
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FNfal said:
My IP cameras are a work in progress i have 4 ip cameras all odds and sods working with blueiris software . What i learned from the cams i bought is get the best resolution and frame rate for the money you want to spend on an IP cam. (and a decent quality to)
These guys have some decent IP cams http://www.dbg.co.za/index.php?cPath=80
I still rely on my stand alone DVR with 6 hi def analogue cams.
One of my cams is this one http://www.dbg.co.za/product_info.php?cPath=80&products_id=751 great came during the day but virtually useless at night.
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I have had a look at DBG and the "AVTECH AVM359 HD Vari-focal Solid Light Outdoor IP Camera" looks to be pretty great.
What is your experience with the AVTECH range?
Also came across a DVR software called iSPY ( http://www.ispyconnect.com) which seems to be pretty awesome it even has facial recognition and Number plate recognition and I think it is free?? ( don't quote me on that though, haha)
 
deepdiver said:
Thanks fnfal have had a look at dbg have used them for tp link stuff and they are pretty awesome.
Will have a squiz there
Thanks chris will take those specs as a base.
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Has anyone had any experience with the*Ubiquiti AirCam Outdoor IP Camera?
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I have 1 Aircam that is monitoring my gate.

Its a cost effective solution, as you don't need a lot of equipment. you can use a PC that act as a DVR.
It sends me a email with a pic as soon as it detects movement, to a area I specify. It will also record a few minutes (or how long you set it up for)
 
piranha786 said:
I have 1 Aircam that is monitoring my gate.

Its a cost effective solution, as you don't need a lot of equipment. you can use a PC that act as a DVR.
It sends me a email with a pic as soon as it detects movement, to a area I specify. It will also record a few minutes (or how long you set it up for)
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Thanks Piranha, I have heard that the CPU utilization of the software can be very intense when using the area based motion detection, Have you had this issue?
Also can the software be integrated with other cams or are they locked to Ubiquiti only?
Also what is the quality like? ( can you see a guys face from 15 m , as this will be installed below roof)
 
deepdiver said:
Has anyone had any experience with the*Ubiquiti AirCam Outdoor IP Camera?
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They are useless in low light situations, look good in well lit areas.
We have 9 cams installed, and settled eventually on the VIVOTEK VI-IP8330 because of it's night performance.
If the cam is for security, it's the most important aspect.

VIVOTEK IP8330 is the best bullet-style network camera offering supreme night visibility for diverse outdoor applications. Featuring up to an unbelievable 60fps at VGA resolution and exceptional low light sensitivity down to 0.1 lux, the VIVOTEK IP8330 captures impressively smooth and crystal-clear video, even at nighttime. In order to adapt to constantly changing outdoor lighting conditions, the IP8330 also features a removable IR-cut filter as well as IR illuminators for superior image quality around the clock.
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deepdiver said:
Thanks Piranha, I have heard that the CPU utilization of the software can be very intense when using the area based motion detection, Have you had this issue?
Also can the software be integrated with other cams or are they locked to Ubiquiti only?
Also what is the quality like? ( can you see a guys face from 15 m , as this will be installed below roof)
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I run mine off a HP microserver, with a 1.4 ghz processor and it don't give me any problem. In daylight 15m is fine, but the cam do not have infrared, thus night vision is poor.

Haven't tried any other camera with the software.

I'm not saying the camera is the best, but for under R1000, it is not bad.
 
deepdiver said:
Also what is the quality like? ( can you see a guys face from 15 m , as this will be installed below roof)
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This is from my Aircam taken now
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ColinR said:
They are useless in low light situations, look good in well lit areas.
We have 9 cams installed, and settled eventually on the VIVOTEK VI-IP8330 because of it's night performance.
If the cam is for security, it's the most important aspect.
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Thanks ColinR :-)
Wow had a look at that device ,Vivotek... The reviews are great for night time video. What are you using for your DVR?
What else can you say about this device?
The price is about R3170..
Was kinda thinking of an Ubiquiti (cause it costs next to nothing and an activated light for the backyard)
Then something for the main road/ Front gate
either the
VIVOTEK - R3170
AVTECH AVM359 HD - R2500
and then use that iSPY software ( mainly because it seems the best even out of commercial software, although would have to test it)
 
ColinR said:
They are useless in low light situations, look good in well lit areas.
We have 9 cams installed, and settled eventually on the VIVOTEK VI-IP8330 because of it's night performance.
If the cam is for security, it's the most important aspect.
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Just a note, be careful how close you position it to a reflective surface, such as a wall, because the IR reflection will overwhelm your camera sensor.

My problem with that camera is that I have it positioned too far away from the gate to actually get a good view of the target area. I need to find a different lens with a narrower field of view, but those seem to be difficult to come by.
 
Hi you can also get an additional IR illumination device for not so much money to give extra IR on target.
 
I've had ...interesting times.. finding out that AVTech and Ubiquiti are basically flat-out ignored by the camera software vendors (it's possible to work-around, but nicer to not have to). Therefore, as a mainstream brand that appears in just about all software is Hikvision, the DS-2CD2012-I is a good entry-level native PoE IR 1.3MP beastie; you can stay at the 1.3MP and get (apparently) into the 20-30m lit-up range with the DS-2CD864-EI3 ..and there's always Vivotek (not to mention Axis, but they tend to be a whole OTHER price bracket)
 
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Thanks bdt:-)
Was actually wondering about night but with lighting.
Anyone else got some night shots with other camera's?
 
OK so bang for buck.

Ubiquti - R1000 (No IR, Bad interoperability with other software / Good Motion,comes with POE with injector, cool software , cool Price )

Hikvision -1.3 MP - R2000 ( Good compatibility , 30m Night vision, Motion detection,POE af)

Avtech - 1.3 MP - R2500 (Bad Compatibility, 35m Night vision,Motion detection,POE af, Cool integration with alarm devices)

VivoTek - 1 M (VI-IP8332) R3220 (30m Night vision bunch of extras high end Brand)
 
FINALLY got something useful for a daytime example:

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Also note that while the airCams may not necessarily be picked up by the camera packages, they are accessible via standard methods (rstp), and are well enough documented that you can work it out easily enough. But, on a negative note, while they are PoE they are *spit* custom/non-standard PoE - at 24Vdc, not 48V - which forces you to have to compensate. Also, deepdiver, if you're going PoE, have you got your power source sorted out? FWIW, and assuming a not many cameras needed, you would be very well served with a Planet 808HP, which feeds 802.3at (moar power than .af)
 
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