2013: Mweb - lets go back to rolling windows :)

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Its 2013 and mweb is going backwards: rolling windows. Such a golden moment I had to dedicate a thread to it.


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Good Day

The letter was not sent based on current usage, but rather looking at historical usage trends.

We have always enforced our acceptable usage policy however as from the 1st of September we will be changing the method for doing this on our Premium Products.

Rather than issue warnings and suspend services as we have done in the past we will instead be applying temporary speed limits to users with excessive behaviour, based on a rolling 30 day window.

We are confident that this will be a much more efficient way of doing things and should have a positive impact on the network experience for all of our customers.

I had to check the date and read it twice.

2013
Afrihost - no rolling windows.
Openweb - no rolling windows.
WebAfrica - no rolling windows.
Telkom - no rolling windows.
Mweb - lets go back to rolling windows.


Perhaps this is turning out to be true: MWEB Uncapped ADSL to be discontinued [April Fool]
 
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When they revamped the market in 2008/2009 with a cost worthy internet service I knew things would likely change in 3 years, now 5 years and they are simply going backwards as you stated.

The whole thing with a home budget (standard) and home premium package is very questionable related to the service both parties will receive, obviously the client do not know what is going on behind the scenes.

Do they still however have capacity to provide the demanding market or is the unknown ever changing AUP usage and rolling windows the way to camp their user base?

It is clear scanning here through the threads that the Mweb user experience has greatly degraded. This is my opinion. I’m using their service now, only have minor problems here and there.
 
I'm already looking for alternatives. The superior service and no throttling bull**** was the one reason I stayed with them when the competition dropped prices and they didn't.

I guess the "unsustainable" crowd was right. For shame, MWEB. For shame.
 
When they revamped the market in 2008/2009 with a cost worthy internet service I knew things would likely change in 3 years, now 5 years and they are simply going backwards as you stated.

The whole thing with a home budget (standard) and home premium package is very questionable related to the service both parties will receive, obviously the client do not know what is going on behind the scenes.

Do they still however have capacity to provide the demanding market or is the unknown ever changing AUP usage and rolling windows the way to camp their user base?

It is clear scanning here through the threads that the Mweb user experience has greatly degraded. This is my opinion. I’m using their service now, only have minor problems here and there.

Sounds familiar?:
MWEB promotes these ADSL accounts as ‘uncapped’ services, highlighting some of the benefits, such as “Don’t get cut off from your Internet”; “Use as much data as you like”; “FAST always-on internet access”; and “Ideal for video calling, downloads and running a small office.”

and of course:
“On 22 March 2010, MWEB will launch a series of affordable uncapped ADSL products in the South African market targeted at both consumers and businesses,” the company said in a press statement.
 
MWEB shakes up the market with low-cost uncapped ADSL

I said this before and I will say this again: Mweb has gone to **** since Rudy left.

Official Press Release:

South Africans are today a step closer to being able to use the internet like the rest of the world does as MWEB, South Africa’s leading ISP, today launches a full range of uncapped ADSL packages for consumers and businesses at an affordable, highly competitive price. With products priced from R219 per month and some 40% cheaper than other offerings, MWEB is the first major player in South Africa to offer uncapped ADSL on a significant scale, available 24 hours a day, with all the value-added products, technical back-up and a world-class network – at an affordable price.

Rudi Jansen, MWEB CEO, says the time has come for South Africans to experience unlimited internet access that is within their means. “Internet penetration in South Africa remains below par - in fact, South Africa has fallen behind a number of other African countries in recent times. The lack of well-priced, generously-provisioned bandwidth has been holding us all back, and as a result we are missing out on an immense economic opportunity.

“In his state of the nation address last month, President Jacob Zuma promised to increase broadband access, reduce tariffs and ensure a high standard of internet service, in line with international norms. MWEB’s latest move is supportive of the government’s objectives to increase internet take-up as part of its efforts to encourage greater economic growth and social upliftment. By lifting the usage cap and increasing competition, MWEB will greatly assist the industry change that is needed in this country.

ICT industry analyst, Arthur Goldstuck, agrees with this sentiment, saying cheap, unlimited broadband by MWEB marks a key shift in South African Internet history. “It has been proven that accessible technology builds the economy. This is the kind of catalyst we’ve all waited for; we hope it's the gambit all other providers will have to match. If it delivers what it promises, the consumer and business user and ultimately the country will be the beneficiaries.”

Vast benefits
Citing the examples of France and South Korea and pointing to various global ICT programmes aimed at overcoming the 2009 economic slump, Jansen says the direct and indirect benefits including the multiplier effect of cheap, abundant bandwidth are nothing short of remarkable.

“Broadband lifted South Korea out of the devastation of the Asian market collapse in 1997,” he says. “In 1995, 1% of their population dialed up to the Internet. In 2009, more than 95% of households had broadband. The change is deep and irreversible - everybody has high-definition video on demand. Online gaming conventions are as big as soccer matches or rock concerts. South Koreans spend twice as much per capita online as US citizens.”

South Africa’s turn
Jansen says MWEB hopes its actions are a precursor to a meaningful industry response. Since South African telecoms policy was liberalised to permit ISPs to offer services on their own networks, MWEB, a first-tier ISP with its own international bandwidth provisioned through SAT3 and Seacom, is now able to compete with telcos by providing Internet access on its own network.

“In spite of the current stranglehold that Telkom currently has on the internet market in South Africa, we felt that action of this significance was necessary to get South Africa to join the rest of the world and enjoy the social and economic benefits that broadband internet has to offer,” said Jansen. “This offer will enable South Africans to access and download content on scale never seen before. We have a real chance to lift ourselves from broadband mediocrity in South Africa, or we risk falling into broadband oblivion,” he added.

MWEB has invested significantly in its network to produce a top quality, reliable network that has been engineered to world-class standards and which will accommodate the volume of traffic expected. MWEB recently achieved Tier-1 ISP status with the migration of its customers to its own IPC network, thereby limiting its reliance on other Tier-1 providers for its bandwidth needs. With its new IPC link, MWEB will have more control over its ADSL network. Jansen said he is confident that the additional control will mean better performance and higher service levels.
“We will also be utilising bandwidth on both the SAT3 and SEACOM international cable systems in order to have full redundancy on our international bandwidth,” he said. “We signed up with SEACOM in March for a long-term agreement and we are purchasing significant bandwidth as SEACOM provides MWEB with a very attractive solution for international network capacity, at the best price currently available to the South African market.”

He added however, that for any ADSL service to be successful a close working relationship with Telkom is needed as they still control the last mile. MWEB will continue to work with Telkom to ensure MWEB subscribers receive the best possible network experience in the country.

Packages
MWEB is introducing six data-only ADSL packages for consumers and businesses. The consumer data-only products will cost R219, R299 and R539 per month for line speeds of 384Kbps, 512 Kbps and 4Mbps respectively. The MWEB Business data-only offerings will cost R499 per month for a 384Kbps line, R699 per month for a 512Kbps line, and R1 999 per month on a 4Mbps line. These services are available on any line rental package available from Telkom, even Telkom’s “Closer” subscription bundles.

In addition, MWEB will offer three consumer all-inclusive packages (ADSL line rental included) for R349, R599 and R899 per month for line speeds of 384Kbps, 512 Kbps and 4Mbps respectively. The all-inclusive offerings for businesses will cost R629 for the 384kbps option, R999 for the 512Kbps option and R2 259 for the 4Mbps package.

All business products are unshaped, and as in the rest of the world, no bandwidth caps will apply to any of these services.

Business-grade
The MWEB Business products are specifically designed to suit the needs of small and medium sized businesses, usually seen as 5 or more connected devices. Andre Joubert, GM of MWEB Business, explains that the MWEB Business packages are fully managed. “If something goes wrong, MWEB’s support engineers will remotely log on to fix a router or send an engineer on-site at no additional charge, and also liaise with Telkom, for their portion of the fault.”

Joubert says the Business packages have other advantages too.
- They are unshaped.
- The service is designed to cater for the throughput of business applications not usually associated with consumer products
- MWEB includes use of a business-grade router worth R3 999 in the 12-month contract.
- The product comes with fixed IP addresses, offering the ability to host servers and deploy a VPN connection.
- MWEB runs a dedicated call centre that offers business-specific technical skills.
- The service is fully MWEB VoIP compatible.
- The product comes with reports and proactive fault communication.

In addition, says Joubert, while MWEB Business packages are at a premium compared to consumer products, they’re still up to R1 800 less per month than comparative business products on offer. The throughput will be better than is currently available in the market.

”Now businesses can run more effectively without having to worry about their internet costs. This is set to drive growth in the SME sector in particular.”

Consolidation
MWEB will use the occasion to consolidate its numerous ADSL offerings into a simpler portfolio. On the consumer side, a number of capped packages prevail, but these will enjoy additional cost-savings. For example:
1GB R89 no frills now costs R69
2GB Data Cap Only will be migrated to 3GB at R145
1GB All-inclusive 384Kbps will be migrated to 2GB at R199
 
ooops I almost missed one

goodbye Necuno , good riddance :D
 
My service degraded so much with mweb that I eventually canceled and moved to Afrihost, couldn't be happier! Mweb is going backwards at one hell of a rate
 
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Just got this over facebook, if its less than 3% its understandable, but still there should be better ways to deal with them
 
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Just got this over facebook, if its less than 3% its understandable, but still there should be better ways to deal with them

So less than 3% of their user are using their account others use it to read news and facebook and Email.I can imagine the profits MWEB is making with such customers.If they cant sustain such a small percent of customers with usage of 300 and above GB its pathetic and pure greed from them
 
Well then, I guess Mweb is one ISP that's no longer worth being with.
Agreed. The old crap of the rolling window is definitely in place. I have experienced it, last week.
Time to pull my finger out and make that move.
 
I'm on afrihost business 8 Mbps and is is cheaper then premium mweb and much better
It took mweb 4 weeks to fix my VoIP problem and with afrihost no problems
 
If they cant sustain such a small percent of customers with usage of 300 and above GB its pathetic and pure greed from them

300 and above? Pfft! I got notice today, and in the past 12 months I have only exceeded 200GB on three occasions (max was 249GB), ALL the other months have been below 200GB (generally less than 170GB). Oh, and how they love to be completely vague about their AUP.

Loved their service previously, but now...
 
Mweb just turned themselves into a joke. They're basically saying that everyone is getting screwed because of 3% of their users. Would it kill them to just throttle the problem users and leave everyone as they were? Do they still force you to stay for a month when you cancel? If so and you want to leave, just downgrade your account to the cheapest capped option and then give notice. Doing this only cost me R30.

I left them a few months ago for Afrihost business when the international cables broke, and my connection is amazing - properly unshaped 24/7 with great streaming and downloading. I highly recommend Afrihost to anyone leaving Mweb.
 
Apparently even some capped users got a mail (looking at the FB comments)...

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Good MOrning, this is not true.

The email was only sent to the abusers and the users that could be affected by throttling, pertaining to the shaped premium packages only.
 
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