The ANC wants to bring conscription back

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The SA army wants you(th)

The ANC and its allies believe military training will tackle the social alienation of youth, gangsterism, alcohol and drug abuse – and instil discipline and patriotism.

Johannesburg - As soon as June next year, young people could find themselves forced to become part of a youth military programme as government tries new ways to contain spiralling unemployment.

Over the past few weeks, the presidency’s national steering committee has held marathon meetings amid pressure to finalise details of a youth service programme that could see government sending young people, from the age of 18, to the army for military training.

And the clock is ticking as the deadline for the full roll-out of the plan has been set for June next year.

The ANC-led alliance has already called for the urgent implementation of an improved National Youth Services (NYS) programme in which the SA National Defence Force (SANDF) and various government departments will play a role.

This expanded, multisectoral youth service is set to benefit millions of young South Africans, most of whom are unemployed.

However, there have been differing views on whether it should be compulsory for all young people to join the army as part of national service requirements.

In a interview with City Press last month, ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe said he would support the reintroduction of conscription, which was scrapped in South Africa in 1994.

“We moved away from conscription too soon. Naturally, we would actually say that every youth person may serve an X number of years or months in the army to be trained because the army is the most equipped structure that could deal with young people in a structured way.

“Actually, the best engineering capacity in the country is in the army. So that’s what we should be thinking about,” he said.

However, Dr Bernice Hlagala, who is the director of youth development in the presidency, told City Press the draft framework had ruled out compulsory military training, but it could still be changed.

The draft has yet to be presented to the deputy minister in the presidency, Buti Manamela. If he rubber stamps it, the youth military programme will then be tabled at Cabinet for a final decision.

“The primary aim of the NYS is not military. There are many aspects to it, like encouraging youth to volunteer at old-age homes or government departments and acquire skills in the process.

“We will identify exit opportunities but we can’t create the expectation that everyone will be absorbed where they provide services. But for those going to the army, we are saying – in the draft – that it is voluntary,” said Hlagala.

Although reintroducing conscription may go against the spirit of the Constitution, Mantashe said “the country must do what it needs to do for the country to work”.

Manamela established the national steering committee to drive the process towards a better youth development programme, as one of the interventions touted in the national youth policy 2020, which was recently adopted by Cabinet to deal with youth unemployment.

The ANC and its allies believe military training will tackle the social alienation of youth, gangsterism, alcohol and drug abuse – and instil discipline, patriotism and volunteerism.

Hlagala said it was envisaged that some participants would emerge as professionals including doctors, pilots and engineers, while others would take on technical and artisan jobs.

The department of rural development has successfully implemented its youth service plan, the National Rural Youth Service Corps (Narysec), in partnership with the SANDF to train youth between the ages of 18 and 35.

Under the programme, army generals are tasked with whipping young people into shape before they enrol in Further Education and Training colleges.

Hlagala said the proposed NYS plan would give participants, including those who have not completed high school, the opportunity to further their studies, on condition that they give back to their communities. Hlagala said funding would be sourced from National Treasury once Cabinet approval was obtained.

Meanwhile, General Fumanekile Gqiba, head of the Narysec college in Thaba 'Nchu in the Free State, told City Press that some of his programme’s beneficiaries were now employed or running their own construction businesses. He said the only way to deal with social ills and ill-discipline among young people was to force them into the army – but not for combat training.

He said conscription was an ongoing discussion “among comrades”, but had not been taken further than that.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/The-SA-army-wants-youth-20150725

So glad I'm too old for this crap. What are your thoughts re conscription into the ANC's army?
 
Look, conscription was what it was back in the day...

But imagine now going out and defending Zuma's interests and bed buddies... Palastine, Sudan, Russia, North Korea. Yeah, no.
 
I think conscription is a good idea, though I think alternative options should be given besides the military
 
Yeah right, giving weapons to the discontented, unemployed youth really sounds like a formula for success.
 
I think there is "min dae" left for the ANC.

Uhhh nope, I think there is "min dae" left for the lifestyles we enjoy and relatively comfortable lifestyles... I think we will be heading down the Zimbabwe route very quickly, by this time next year I think this country will be gone to hell completely... and we will be sitting at 1USD = R60
 
ideally, conscription is a good idea. Works wonders in many countries.... BUT... with our level of corruption, past history, disenfranchised youth... its a recipe for a very ver bloody revolution!
 
Look, conscription was what it was back in the day...

But imagine now going out and defending Zuma's interests and bed buddies... Palastine, Sudan, Russia, North Korea. Yeah, no.

and defending PW Botha was ok then?

As a previous victim of conscription I am against it in any way shape or form.
 
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. He said the only way to deal with social ills and ill-discipline among young people was to force them into the army – but not for combat training.

“The primary aim of the NYS is not military. There are many aspects to it, like encouraging youth to volunteer at old-age homes or government departments and acquire skills in the process.

Johannesburg - As soon as June next year, young people could find themselves forced to become part of a youth military programme as government tries new ways to contain spiralling unemployment.


CHEAP LABOUR. THAT's WHAT THE BRAINLESS cANCer IMBECILES WANT.

to train youth between the ages of 18 and 35.

I see a lot of abuse of power coming. They will unofficially call it "conscript the whitey's"


“Actually, the best engineering capacity in the country is in the army. So that’s what we should be thinking about,” he said.

What a brain fart of a joke!

Over the past few weeks, the presidency’s national steering committee has held marathon meetings amid pressure to finalise details of a youth service programme that could see government sending young people, from the age of 18, to the army for military training.

Geez, what is it now. Do these imbeciles even know what the want?
 
and defending PW Botha was ok then?

As a previous victim of conscription I am against it in any way shape or form.

Yeah I'm with you, I'm referring to where they'd get deployed and who they'd fight against, not whose interests they're protecting.
 
They do realise that conscription means you have to pay all these people you "hire". At least provide them with food and boarding. The country can't make ends meet as it is...
 
And turn them into a Communist fighting force to protect you commies.................FY.
 
Uhhh nope, I think there is "min dae" left for the lifestyles we enjoy and relatively comfortable lifestyles... I think we will be heading down the Zimbabwe route very quickly, by this time next year I think this country will be gone to hell completely... and we will be sitting at 1USD = R60

We've already kicked the filth out of the Western Cape. Gauteng will likely follow suit in the next elections.

From there on it's all downhill.
 
who exactly is going to pay for all of this? and this time are females going to be included ? Can you imagine Susan from Sandton getting along with Jonny from the Flats..... More' begin basis
 
We at war or an imminent threat from whom again?

Rather spend money on education than to waste it on an unnessary and wasteful conscription...

Edit: perhaps the ANC looking to secure their future in politics by force..
 
So try to get as many of the young, unemployed youth as possible and provide an environment to indoctrinate them to the ways of the ANC (or should I say SACP?). Sounds like a taxpayer-funded scheme to improve their voting base in future elections and protect against the (young, dumb and full of c*m) youth supporting more militant alternatives like the EFF.
 
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