Windows 10 is almost at 50% adoption

So, they basically stopped selling 7 in 2015 (apart from corporates, presumably) and gave free upgrades and they are still at only 50%?
Do they count my Win10 installation that is basically managing UEFI on behalf of my Ubuntu laptop?
 
Skerminkel said:
So, they basically stopped selling 7 in 2015 (apart from corporates, presumably) and gave free upgrades and they are still at only 50%?
Do they count my Win10 installation that is basically managing UEFI on behalf of my Ubuntu laptop?
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I think the biggest issue is the replenishment of dated laptops. I got issued a new one and it's got Win 10 on it. I want to farking throw this thing into a thousand pieces...
 
Skerminkel said:
So, they basically stopped selling 7 in 2015 (apart from corporates, presumably) and gave free upgrades and they are still at only 50%?
Do they count my Win10 installation that is basically managing UEFI on behalf of my Ubuntu laptop?
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Many Win8 installations which are still supported until 2023 around as well. So 50% conversion rate is pretty good. Once corporates migrate things will change even more but it's a slow process. And then there's all the old hardware which will never run win10.

I'm mostly happy with win10, my biggest gripe is with updates and the actual update mechanisms & inflexibility. I've never had any real issues though.
 
Windows 10 not adopted but forced upon users

This is my opinion though.

When a pc/laptop is replaced with a broken/stolen/outdated one, it is preloaded with Windows 10 and thus the customer have no other choice of operating system and Windows 10 is forced upon then.

I get daily complaints and dissatisfaction from customers that I have supplied with a new machine. They even want me to downgrade them to Windows 7, but can't do that without voiding the warranty and without loading an illegal copy.

So Micro$oft should get their facts/figures straight as that adoption figures are based on mostly new machine sales preloaded with Windows 10 and it is forced upon the end user.
 
PungieEC said:
This is my opinion though.

When a pc/laptop is replaced with a broken/stolen/outdated one, it is preloaded with Windows 10 and thus the customer have no other choice of operating system and Windows 10 is forced upon then.

I get daily complaints and dissatisfaction from customers that I have supplied with a new machine. They even want me to downgrade them to Windows 7, but can't do that without voiding the warranty and without loading an illegal copy.

So Micro$oft should get their facts/figures straight as that adoption figures are based on mostly new machine sales preloaded with Windows 10 and it is forced upon the end user.
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That would be entirely your opinion and is not fact... Just be aware of that.

For every person that hates Windows 10, there are many hundreds that are perfectly comfortable with it...
 
PungieEC said:
This is my opinion though.

When a pc/laptop is replaced with a broken/stolen/outdated one, it is preloaded with Windows 10 and thus the customer have no other choice of operating system and Windows 10 is forced upon then.

I get daily complaints and dissatisfaction from customers that I have supplied with a new machine. They even want me to downgrade them to Windows 7, but can't do that without voiding the warranty and without loading an illegal copy.

So Micro$oft should get their facts/figures straight as that adoption figures are based on mostly new machine sales preloaded with Windows 10 and it is forced upon the end user.
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And it can be difficult, I even had to write drivers to a CD last year, cause nothing else would work with Win7 on the laptop, usb no drivers and thus dead, no wifi drivers, no LAN drivers.
 
Pitbull said:
I think the biggest issue is the replenishment of dated laptops. I got issued a new one and it's got Win 10 on it. I want to farking throw this thing into a thousand pieces...
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you and me both.

I hate Windows 10 with a passion.

Unfortunately my new laptop had to come with Windows 10 on it. If I could go back to Windows 7 on it I would
 
PungieEC said:
I get daily complaints and dissatisfaction from customers that I have supplied with a new machine. They even want me to downgrade them to Windows 7, but can't do that without voiding the warranty and without loading an illegal copy.

So Micro$oft should get their facts/figures straight as that adoption figures are based on mostly new machine sales preloaded with Windows 10 and it is forced upon the end user.
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Microsoft protected themselves from downgrading to Windows 7, as staring from Kaby Lake CPU there there are no drivers. There is no drivers for Windows 8.1 too.

I was wondering why second-hand laptops are very expensive, perhaps it is because you can dump a rubbish and install OS you prefer.
 
Second hand laptops haven’t changed in price because of this dude.... they’re just expensive because people think they’re worth more than they really are
 
ponder said:
Many Win8 installations which are still supported until 2023 around as well. So 50% conversion rate is pretty good. Once corporates migrate things will change even more but it's a slow process. And then there's all the old hardware which will never run win10.

I'm mostly happy with win10, my biggest gripe is with updates and the actual update mechanisms & inflexibility. I've never had any real issues though.
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You mean in terms of driver support from vendors, right? Hardware requirements wise, they're both the same. I find W10 to use less resources though, especially the compressed memory: https://www.howtogeek.com/319933/what-is-memory-compression-in-windows-10/

On an 8GB RAM machine I was working on, it had near 3GB of compressed memory at one point as I was topping out.
 
ThinkCentre said:
....but now I love it!
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+1

I wasn't forced, I created a dual boot setup on my laptop just thinking I'll give 10 a bash..never looked back.
Was on 7 for years and years....never bothered with 8.

Firstly, and most crucially for me, it's is far less of a mem hog than 7.
After bootup and disabling of unnecessary services,removing apps from startup, etc i'm left with +- 3Gb available RAM as opposed to 1.5Gb on Win7.
 
SA-UK said:
+1

I wasn't forced, I created a dual boot setup on my laptop just thinking I'll give 10 a bash..never looked back.
Was on 7 for years and years....never bothered with 8.

Firstly, and most crucially for me, it's is far less of a mem hog than 7.
After bootup and disabling of unnecessary services,removing apps from startup, etc i'm left with +- 3Gb available RAM as opposed to 1.5Gb on Win7.
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Not reliable source, double posts, MS propaganda. How many times have heard the same?

Will wait...
 
sajunky said:
Not reliable source, double posts, MS propaganda. How many times have heard the same?

Will wait...
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Coming from Sajunky, that's quite funny.
And it's obvious SA-UK's post is an opinion, but W10 is better than W7 for lower RAM due to memory compression.

EDIT:
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MacOS also introduced it around the same time I think, most Linux OS should also have it.
On a friend's machine with 8GB he once had near 6GB compressed. I rarely have over 2GB on this machine.
 
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Johnatan56 said:
Coming from Sajunky, that's quite funny.
And it's obvious SA-UK's post is an opinion, but W10 is better than W7 for lower RAM due to memory compression.
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I ignore a lot of the drivel that's posted by juveniles or idiots on here
Clearly has some issue with aggression. Sad sack.

Problem with the internet is some people lack any objectivity or credentials.
 
Johnatan56 said:
And it's obvious SA-UK's post is an opinion, but W10 is better than W7 for lower RAM due to memory compression.
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There is more MS moles on this forum.

As for the post, it is not true. My tests show that new installation of Windows 10 is more responsive on PC with 2GB RAM than on the 4GB. Strange, but it could be because on 2GB RAM MS turned off all this 'telemetry' spyware&cryptocurrency mining crap (useless on 2GB anyway). It is why Microsoft do not support 2GB PC anymore!!!

A fresh installation of Windows 7 on 2GB RAM PC is little bit more responsive than Win10. On 4GB Windows 7 is much more faster.
 
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