Blackouts become a way of life

The big stories of blackouts have come from Brazil, Cuba, Pakistan, Chile, the Baltic states, Iraq and Uganda, and will include Tajikistan, Rwanda, Zambia and those on the South African grid.
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Lol. Good thing we can now join this list of economic powerhouses. They are so well run *sarcasm* At least now we know where we fit in the world...

If some of the guys could solve their problems in two years why is it going to take us 7?
 
pkid said:
Lol. Good thing we can now join this list of economic powerhouses. They are so well run *sarcasm* At least now we know where we fit in the world...

If some of the guys could solve their problems in two years why is it going to take us 7?
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Brazil's was solved by rainfall. :rolleyes:
Cuba imported generators - considering that solved their problem, one can easily see how little power they use. :rolleyes:

bored now even trying to discuss this article. Some one else take over.
 
So SA really has joined the third world now it seems. Cuba's a communist joke, but the scary thing is the gov probably admires them.
 
India is offering up to 80% incentives for setting up solar power plants, while Japan wants 30% of the population to be on solar energy within 22 years.
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And that is why they have aggressively growing economies. Its called "planning (for the future)"... look it up. R'tards.
 
timgaul said:
And that is why they have aggressively growing economies. Its called "planning (for the future)"... look it up. R'tards.
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Lol. So true. We will put up all these new power stations and we will be fine for another 10 years and then the blackouts will happen again. I don't mind it if we make mistakes but it is the sheer inability to learn from them that causes me to be hopeless about our future. If you can't learn from your mistakes you can't improve...
 
pkid said:
Lol. So true. We will put up all these new power stations and we will be fine for another 10 years and then the blackouts will happen again. I don't mind it if we make mistakes but it is the sheer inability to learn from them that causes me to be hopeless about our future. If you can't learn from your mistakes you can't improve...
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A clever man learns from his mistakes, a wise man learns from the mistakes of others.
 
This headline is very true though, they do become a way of life and we just accept it and carry on, get our generators etc. Its the same way we're forced to accept crime and put up our electric fencing because there's nothing else you can do. Eventually it just becomes normal which is scary.
 
Syndyre said:
Eventually it just becomes normal which is scary.
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I could not have said it better...

I have sort of been standing back and looking at this whole situation and seeing how the reaction of people change day by day - from being mad and wanting to do something constructive about it to going out and buying generators and just accepting their fate...

This country has become a group of people - just accepting what the money and power greedy dictatorship tells them to do and think...

Wow, who would have thought us notorious South Africans could give up so quickly...?
 
HDC said:
I could not have said it better...

I have sort of been standing back and looking at this whole situation and seeing how the reaction of people change day by day - from being mad and wanting to do something constructive about it to going out and buying generators and just accepting their fate...

This country has become a group of people - just accepting what the money and power greedy dictatorship tells them to do and think...

Wow, who would have thought us notorious South Africans could give up so quickly...?
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I don't know. There are a lot of angry people out there. I don't think this one is just going to go away.

Though businesses need to carry one, buying a generator is not giving up - its basic survival.
 
timgaul said:
I don't know. There are a lot of angry people out there. I don't think this one is just going to go away.

Though businesses need to carry one, buying a generator is not giving up - its basic survival.
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The problem is there is no quick solution. What are we going to do? Pool our money and build our own power station?
 
pkid said:
The problem is there is no quick solution. What are we going to do? Pool our money and build our own power station?
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Apparently companies tried that. Until Eskom and the government chased them off, and then turned around and complained there were no companies willing enough to go into the power business.

Eskom and the government dug their own grave on that one!
 
Its so damn simple: Sort out the farked-up BEE coal suppliers.

The Carte Blanche show clearly showed that the problem is (to a certain extent) decreasing supply not increasing demand.
 
timgaul said:
Apparently companies tried that. Until Eskom and the government chased them off, and then turned around and complained there were no companies willing enough to go into the power business.

Eskom and the government dug their own grave on that one!
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Lol. Sounds like when Pick 'n Pay tried to sell cheap petrol. When will they realise that everything that regulate sucks. Free market economy with a light regulatory environment.
 
HavocXphere said:
Its so damn simple: Sort out the farked-up BEE coal suppliers.

The Carte Blanche show clearly showed that the problem is (to a certain extent) decreasing supply not increasing demand.
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Yes, apparently SA has a maximum of 39000Mw and 3500Mw is undergoing maintenance (every common for summer). By my calculations that 35000Mw, with SA summer peaking around 32000Mw. More than enough, right? How then is the capacity at the moment currently 27000Mw?

Its not explained, but Carte Blanche clearly shows its a lack of coal (apparently it makes no difference if the coal is wet or not) as a result of some shady BEE business dealings.

BEE should be loadshedded - all it is is an African version of the Broederbond; a big boys club for simply distributing business between your buddies.
 
pkid said:
Lol. Sounds like when Pick 'n Pay tried to sell cheap petrol. When will they realise that everything that regulate sucks. Free market economy with a light regulatory environment.
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But there is nothing wrong with a television broadcasters, telecoms sector, postal service, etc, etc? :D
 
Anyone watch carte blanche last night::mad:

This diagram from Eskom's intranet is for internal use only. It shows the megawatts that Eskom exports at a specific time to South Africa's neighbouring states. This week, while our gold mines were shut down, Eskom sent 761mW to the MOZAL aluminium smelter in Maputo.

At the same time, Swaziland was receiving 476mW, Botswana 103mW, Namibia 126mW and Zimbabwe 51mW.

Added up, this is more than 1 500mW six times the amount that Johannesburg was forced to load shed daily.
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w...t...f?

http://www.mnet.co.za/Mnet/Shows/carteblanche/story.asp?Id=3444
 
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