Telkom hangs up on Strandfontein residents.

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Telkom hangs up on Strandfontein residents.

By Monique Duval, Plainsman.
Wednesday, 29 October 2008.

Residents from On The Bay, a newly developed area in Strandfontein, are upset because Telkom has turned down their applications for telephone lines.

On The Bay, which consists of 242 houses, was developed by Multi Spectrum Property (MSP) Developments and completed in 2006.

Resident Alistair Holland said Telkom told him that his application was turned down because there was no infrastructure for telephone lines in the area.

Craig Gordon, said he also applied for a telephone line and was turned down for the same reason.
Mr. Gordon said he was not aware that the area did not have the underground cabling needed for the telephone lines.
“I did not ask whether my home would have a telephone line when I bought it because I thought it would.”
Mr. Gordon said he could not understand why there was no infrastructure in place when Bay View, which is less then 25 metres away from On The Bay has overhead lines that hang from poles.

Chris Paulsen has been a resident in the area for two years and owns two properties.
He said he also applied for telephone lines and after his application was turned down he went to the Telkom store in the Promenade Mall to look for answers.
He told the Plainsman that the customer service agent told him that his application was turned down due to lack of infrastructure in the area.
Mr. Paulsen also said the customer service agent told him that the number of applications for telephone lines “did not make it economically viable” for Telkom to install cables.

Telkom spokesperson Pynee Chetty said that because the houses have already been built, they do not have the jurisdiction to go into the area and install cables.

He said developers usually contact Telkom before they start building and Telkom then makes arrangements to install underground cabling for the telephone lines.

Kabous Fouche, project manager for MSP, said an agreement was made between Telkom and MSP for the relevant infrastructure to be put in place.
Mr. Fouche said Telkom did not want MSP to provide the sleeves and the other materials for underground cabling but asked them to provide the sleeves at the road crossings and Telkom would then provide the overhead lines.
He told the Plainsman that the sleeves have been put at the road crossings as suggested by Telkom officials.

Ward councillor, Irma Jackson, said she was aware of the problem and has received some complaints.
Mrs. Jackson said she has been in contact with the relevant people at Telkom.

After making several enquiries the Plainsman was referred to Tshego Matlou, adviser to the customer care manager, who said the lines for that area are “not viable”.
She also said that she could not give a reason, but that Mal Baloyi, national customer care manager at Telkom, will be looking into it.

The Plainsman is one of the independent community newspapers in the Western Cape, serving Mitchell's Plain and surrounding areas.
As they do not have a website of their own, I elected to type this up and put it up here.

Just goes to show that Telscum really don't care for the people and I feel that as the "National" telecoms provider for this country, they should be installing those lines as it should be in their directive as a state owned entity!

Between MSP and Telscum - I feel the residents should take them to court in a class action lawsuit.
This is basic telephony we're talking about!
Not even broadband, and people can't even get their hands on that.

I stay down the road from the area and can't believe that they are not being "serviced" by Telscum.

Fiekus made a notable suggestion that this may be an oppurtunity for Neotel to step in and "save the day".
Would be a very good marketing stunt if they did pull it off.
 
I just fired off a message to Neotel via their web-site. Here's hoping they can help that community, let down by Telkom and the developers.
Thanks Shake&Bake for posting the article here. I copied it and sent it in my message to Neotel.

p.s. hope you found something to do today after being up so early ;)
 
This is nothing new, there are loads of places I know of that are not serviced by Telkom any more, mostly farming communities or very small communities.

On one hand I can understand that it must be financially viable, and on the other I understand the frustration if you look at Namibia who have a wireless phone set-up in the remote locations (farms, etc.), they can do it, why not us (Telkom)?

There are other reasons one can bring to the table that needs consideration, but I'm not going into it just now, would mean a long post and I'm getting lazy...
:p
 
This is nothing new, there are loads of places I know of that are not serviced by Telkom any more, mostly farming communities or very small communities.

On one hand I can understand that it must be financially viable, and on the other I understand the frustration if you look at Namibia who have a wireless phone set-up in the remote locations (farms, etc.), they can do it, why not us (Telkom)?

There are other reasons one can bring to the table that needs consideration, but I'm not going into it just now, would mean a long post and I'm getting lazy...
:p

Hehe I get what you're saying and I realise that their are many areas throughout the country that are not being serviced. But in this instance, there was an agreement with the developer, according to the following:

Kabous Fouche, project manager for MSP, said an agreement was made between Telkom and MSP for the relevant infrastructure to be put in place.
Mr. Fouche said Telkom did not want MSP to provide the sleeves and the other materials for underground cabling but asked them to provide the sleeves at the road crossings and Telkom would then provide the overhead lines.
He told the Plainsman that the sleeves have been put at the road crossings as suggested by Telkom officials.

So it begs the question.
Why have they not followed through and installed the overhead lines?
Then again - this is Telscum we're talking about.
So its a rather useless question :rolleyes:
 
It's a typical Telkom/Govt thing... fck the poor. They've done it for years and it's not going to change until private enterprise can fulfil these market niches, b'cos there's not enough money in it for them (Telkom i mean).

You didn't think it was about the people did you? Nope, they're just not profitable enough.

And who is the developer? Probably a BEE arrangement who ended up screwing their own people. It's really not unreasonable to expect telephony as standard in an urban environment, this is the 21st century after.

I feel for the people who bought into the development. The opportunity of property ownership for poor people would be one of the most exciting events in their lives, only to find that they can't even have basic telephony.

Telkom makes me sick
 
Joe - I'm with you on this one, they continue to fsck the ppl over and the developer is just as much to blame as Telscum.
They got their money and never did anything to ensure that Telscum completed their end of the job.
I wonder if Telscum paid them for putting up those sleeves?
 
I just fired off a message to Neotel via their web-site. Here's hoping they can help that community, let down by Telkom and the developers.
Thanks Shake&Bake for posting the article here. I copied it and sent it in my message to Neotel.

p.s. hope you found something to do today after being up so early ;)

Any response from Neotel?
 
WOW its nice to read this article here anyway my name is craig gordon and im the one that took this story to the plainsman . . . . guess what we still without lines i have thrown in the towel a little bit its too tiring stressing but if you guys have any help or suggestions please contact me it will be much appreciated
 
Hey Craig.

Ever thought about contacting your local ward counsellor?
Perhaps now with elections around the corner, they'd actually want to "do" something for the community.
 
the ward councillor has said there is nothing she can do as telkom is out of her capacity . . . . yeah i even contacted the city mayor lol in fact I have run out of ideas even contemplated doing our own poles but can you imagine the costs involved
 
OH and i spoke to people in pretoria who work directly under that clown ruben september and they also told me straight to forget the idea of getting telephone lines . . . . just like that
 
While i sympathise with the home owners, the fact is that any company will not spend millions on infrastructure to service a few dozen new houses. It makes no sense. I would be p'd off too, but somehow it doesn't seem sinister to me.

What wireless options are available in the area?
 
no iburst and no neotel and no wimax my last resort is vodacom 3g or getting i wifi antenna . . . . all i want is reliable broadband so that i can game online with a playstation3
 
Eish - alot of work done from you end there Craig.

MTN has better quality in Strandfontein - get full 3G, with VC only ever got 2G.
I don't know about up there on the hill on your side, but the VC tower is closer to you and you should get better signal on that end.

I actually think I may have a lead to a contact within Neotel, very high up on their hierarchy. A friend that I met in the UK, his aunt works for Neotel, upper management level - so will try and get her attention to this. Don't know what kind of timeframe I'm looking at for a response, or if, I'll even get one :p
 
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Has anyone specifically sent a PM to the Neotel rep regarding this?

I think the standard answer would be that they're still trying to figure out the landscape in the greater Cape Town area and that the rollout is being hampered by municipalities which are holding them up.
I'd tried on many occasions to get a list of municipalities, from Neotel, which are holding them up, so that I could engage the people in charge in those areas myself.
I don't like that reason!
And I'm prepared to spend my own time in trying to secure a faster rollout for Neotel,
But without any help from their end, I cannot get anything done :rolleyes:
 
WOW thanks shake and bake if ever you need help i will volunteer my time
 
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