I thought VOIP over MTN data was legal?

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http://www.mtn.co.za/Support/Legal/TermsAndConditions/Pages/BasicDataTariffDataBundles.aspx

8. In terms of the current regulatory regime in South Africa, please note that these rates and the MTN GPRS, GPRS+, EDGE or 3G technologies may not be used to transfer or generate Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) traffic. Should it be found that VoIP traffic was carried over the MTN network using these rates or technologies, MTN reserves the right to cancel the agreement that you have with MTN, with immediate effect. You will also be charged retrospectively at R21.93 per Megabyte (VAT excluded) for any VoIP traffic transferred by such means.
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Anyone have any feedback on this?
 
The !@#$%^&* charged me R21.00 a meg for a voip call, yeah I learnt the hard way. So now to hell with them, I don't use their data any longer.
 
Are MTN on some kind of death wish? As if they have not scared enough customers away already by running shady SMS competitions and messing up billing. Now they want to alienate even more of them with this rubbish :confused:
 
Thats why I am checking into this. I am not alone either. If this is their game, I will leave and take more with me.
 
Considering that VOIP traffic is legal in this country since 2005 I believe. I think MTN are in violation their license.
 
morkhans said:
v3g was always very vocal about the fact that Vodacom does not care what you transfer over their network (i.e. VoIP).
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Vodacom's terms and conditions also had a clause that voice and video could be charged at a different rate, see here.
 
warwickw said:
Considering that VOIP traffic is legal in this country since 2005 I believe. I think MTN are in violation their license.
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well, sounds like MTN is not really saying its illegal... just that... if u do it, then have the vaseline ready, and bend over :D
My experiences with MTN over connection quality and many other issues, also makes one think MTN is on some "screw the user" mission... perhaps thats why they are so prioritised to expanding customer base in rest of Africa, the SA users are running away....

I think all the networks have that clause, to cover them if thing go out of hand and they start loosing (?!) too much to VOIP

I clearly don't understand the different 'types' of data traffic... is streaming video & audio (like youtube) different to say a Skype video call? Or do they check the start/end address?
Still, if they'd quit all these efforts to try & screw the customer, then they could offer better service & prices
 
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mmmm - nothing illegal about VoIP but i would imagine their attitude is that it is their network and they would rather you didn't cannibalise their voice revenue by running VoIP over it..they are entitled, within reason, to stipulate terms and conditions for doing business with you and to enforce them (as consumers are entitled to go elsewhere if they don't like it)

personally i think it is a Telecommunications Act mindset and they need to get past it
 
Thanks dominic, my understanding of this statement "In terms of the current regulatory regime" is that MTN are implying that this term is based upon regulatory stipulations, not their own choice, isn't this a bit deceiving?
 
That my friends is why we use pay as you go.When they give you a -R20.63 I like to flush the simcard never to be seen again.
Want that money? Sue me!
 
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