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UUNet just finished installing all new equipment to allow them to sell capped ADSL accounts.

We are considering selling these accounts, I wanted to get a consensus from the users here regards thier views on accounts which go though the UUNet backbone.

Any input would be appreciated. :)
 
Will it be reliable and how will it affect my pocket. I think those are the two questions that will be asked most.

Cheerz
Voodoo
 
Voodoo said:
Will it be reliable and how will it affect my pocket. I think those are the two questions that will be asked most.

Cheerz
Voodoo
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1. Well I hope so... hehe, that's why I want the feed back, to gauge users thoughts on that.

2. I'm waiting for final costing, but I assume it will be about the same as everywhere else... I'm hoping to be able to offer some competitive larger packages like 10GB - 20GB.
 
nGAGEd55 said:
Will there be a possibility of local only accounts?
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I don't think so, it would be interesing to see accounts like this on the market... you could use them in conjunction with a international proxy!
 
We've tested UUNET's uncapped ADSL account a few months ago (+-6 to 9 months). The latencies were outrageous at 300ms to 3000ms pings to Google. After quering this we were told that they route all ADSL traffic via satellite and therefore the lag ... we subsequently dropped that option ... Please post here if this is not the case anymore.
 
LOL I'm intrested in uncapped unshaped cheap options LOL :p
 
PeekNPoke said:
We've tested UUNET's uncapped ADSL account a few months ago (+-6 to 9 months). The latencies were outrageous at 300ms to 3000ms pings to Google. After quering this we were told that they route all ADSL traffic via satellite and therefore the lag ... we subsequently dropped that option ... Please post here if this is not the case anymore.
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These accounts will be VERY different to the uncapped accounts offered by UUNet previously. Those account we're only sold because UUNet / MCI's corporate governance didn't understand the concept of capped ADSL and simply copied thier american model... inevetably (because UUNet's local / peering links wern't sufficient) the solution took too much strain and they were forced to route a large amount of traffic though thier satalite links... the solution was also terribly shaped.

The new ADSL accounts are far more convensional... they are routed though UUNet's network and then over SAIX and IS via the peering links. UUNet has spent vast sums of money upgrading thier links and routers to set this all up. [anyone who subscribes to thier noc list will notice many router upgrades over the past 4 months.]

As I get more information I will post it... we are requesting that UUNet give us some gaurentees regards service performance and availability.
 
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Carlhead said:
I wanted to get a consensus from the users here regards thier views on accounts which go though the UUNet backbone.
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I have been on Uunet uncapped for a few months and consider myself lucky given all the k@k the other big ISPs have been making and having over this time. I don't do gaming, so cannot comment on latency and pings, nor P2P so cannot comment on shaping.

I have been impressed with the service. Not one authentication problem. If there are problems they are normally published on their network notices in a reasonable time. There are times when things are faster and slower, and it was certainly greased lightning over the Xmas week. Did 45Gb in December - no quibbles, and I was certainly NOT online 24/7. IP addresses seem to be constant for lengthy periods - I have not tested exactly how long but guess a month. The line is just always there, up and available.

I am concerned that they are going to up the price of this service to bring them "in line with the market" ( read Telkom ) and I will have to see if I can afford the new price which is probably inevitable. But I have been impressed that they did not rush in to do this on 1 Nov 2005. But what I pay is about half of the IS R1500 uncapped ( admittedly without IS's fixed IPs ).

So far I have had a very good feeling about the service and a good vibe about the company. The cynic in me says "Time will tell", but if I can afford to stay with them I will.
:)
 
i think the days of R750 uncapped from uunet are long gone as you said. i dont even think they will be offering a uncapped solution any more - definitly not at that price. i had an account with them - for business and downloading they are great. not sure about gaming.

If you can get me a price on the new uncapped solution going forward i would be bery grateful.
 
ganymede1 said:
i think the days of R750 uncapped from uunet are long gone as you said. i dont even think they will be offering a uncapped solution any more - definitly not at that price. i had an account with them - for business and downloading they are great. not sure about gaming.

If you can get me a price on the new uncapped solution going forward i would be bery grateful.
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As far as I know they will be continuing thier uncapped service, but the price will escalte to more than R1000... They have to do this to make it justifiable. Remember they also have to pay Telkom for bandwidth, so selling at R750 is extremely risky.
 
Carlhead said:
As far as I know they will be continuing thier uncapped service, but the price will escalte to more than R1000... They have to do this to make it justifiable. Remember they also have to pay Telkom for bandwidth, so selling at R750 is extremely risky.
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I'd like to know more. Remember, they are a bloody big network, and are presumably running their own SA backbone which will be based on line speeds not gigabaytes when paying Telkom. They ( or MCI ) own a chunk of SAT-3 too. I have been told anecdotally and off the record that their cost on such an account is somewhere between R250 and R300 pm, but I don't know. If you have more info I'd be intrigued to hear it.
 
jabulani said:
I'd like to know more. Remember, they are a bloody big network, and are presumably running their own SA backbone which will be based on line speeds not gigabaytes when paying Telkom. They ( or MCI ) own a chunk of SAT-3 too. I have been told anecdotally and off the record that their cost on such an account is somewhere between R250 and R300 pm, but I don't know. If you have more info I'd be intrigued to hear it.
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MCI / UUNet own one of the biggest networks in the world, they carry more than half the worlds internet traffic and a large chunk of switched telephone calls.

They have an extensive network here in South Africa, but it is dwalfed buy the setup's they have in other countries due to SA's exorbatant telecom's costs. They pay for traffic, as you say, in line speed; as they have to pay 1/2 for the peering links to IS and SAIX... however should they wish to upgrade the link with SAIX, they will be liable for the whole cost (don't ask it's Telkom).

As for SAT3, lasted I checked UUNet was running 3 45MBit pipes over SAT 3 and a large amount of satalite bandwidth as well.

I haven't received any confirmed costing on the accounts, but will let you all know as soon as I do.

Edit: I do know UUNet is looking to greatly expand thier client base here in SA, as they have lost a couple of big contracts recently. Most memorobly the SITA contract they lost to IS.
 
Carlhead said:
however should they wish to upgrade the link with SAIX, they will be liable for the whole cost (don't ask it's Telkom).
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Yikes! I'd hate to ask! That is the one part of your post I was not aware of. :eek:

But this does not really add much to your statement "selling at R750 is extremely risky". If they are running as much of their infrastructure themselves as they can without breaking the silly laws, and are not paying Telkom on a gigabyte basis, I think the costs I mentioned are likely to be in the ball park. I fail to see the big risk. (They are sure to inflate their price in line with "the market", however absurd THAT has become - that is just business.) Unless you know different.
 
Why is UUnet dependant on SAIX/Telsum if it has its own national backbone and its own pipes in the SAT3?
 
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