Telkom evaluating Xbox 360 for IPTV

Haha, and in USA the Xbox IPTV service is going over AT&Ts 35mbps lines. That will apparently be good enough for 2 HD and 2 SD channels at the same time. So 3mb (4mb - 1mb for internet) should be good enough for 1 SD channel? Or maybe half a SD channel?
 
ThomasH said:
Haha, and in USA the Xbox IPTV service is going over AT&Ts 35mbps lines. That will apparently be good enough for 2 HD and 2 SD channels at the same time. So 3mb (4mb - 1mb for internet) should be good enough for 1 SD channel? Or maybe half a SD channel?
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Normal ADSL is capable of speeds up to 8 so I wouldnt use 4 as the ceiling just because that's what they're giving you now.

Then there are rumours that telkom might be heading to ADSL2+ and thats a whole new ballpark.
 
Didn't Telkom have their own set top box for this? Is that thrown out the window now?
 
w000t *strokes his xbox 360* best investment for game and home entertainment :)
 
ziglet said:
w000t *strokes his xbox 360* best investment for game and home entertainment :)
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Well . . . I wonder if any non-M$ firmware updates might cause problems?
 
awesome....... This will hopefully force Telkom to up the speeds..... and stop local capping as they where meant to.
 
Well the trials apparently had seggregated bandwith one part with the normal cap for internet and another part for telkom multimedia.
 
telkomsuig said:
Well the trials apparently had seggregated bandwith one part with the normal cap for internet and another part for telkom multimedia.
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Good idea, but when they cannot even tell when bandwidth is local and when international, (The reason they claim they stopped free local ADSL) how on earth will those idiots know when you watch a movie or when you surf internet?

I know it is simple, if the traffic comes from a telscum media server it should be free right? Well, if traffic does not come through the SAT3 pipe it should be free... How hard can that be?
 
I don't think it is not a tecnical issue rather an economic issue. When they do roll out the media services there will be an incentive to split traffic as the last thing they want is to eat into their adsl internet revenues...
 
You allready pay an arm and a leg for ADSL, so what? Do have to put your testicles up as well?!!!!
 
Pricing

DWPTA said:
You allready pay an arm and a leg for ADSL, so what? Do have to put your testicles up as well?!!!!
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Considering that DSTV is about R400/month how is Telkom going to price their offering competitively? Line rental for 4mb is about R500 allready? I doubt their going to give you a 20mb odd line which would be required for HD for less than that? Especially since a portion of that will be used for internet access as well?

So you will get maybe 1mb/s for internet, then have to purchase your 3gb seperately. Rest for TV and the total will have to be less than DSTV in order for them to compete. So then we can get 1mb lines for cheaper than we can now with free TV included? Somehow I doubt that will happen.

BTW, sorry for the incoherent post. Sleepy.
 
ThomasH said:
Considering that DSTV is about R400/month how is Telkom going to price their offering competitively? Line rental for 4mb is about R500 allready? I doubt their going to give you a 20mb odd line which would be required for HD for less than that? Especially since a portion of that will be used for internet access as well?

So you will get maybe 1mb/s for internet, then have to purchase your 3gb seperately. Rest for TV and the total will have to be less than DSTV in order for them to compete. So then we can get 1mb lines for cheaper than we can now with free TV included? Somehow I doubt that will happen.

BTW, sorry for the incoherent post. Sleepy.
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1) They probably won't start with HD, though I believe they do have sufficient bandwidth available.
2) They have plenty of local bandwidth available.
3) The R500 cost to you for a 4mb line has nothing to do with the cost to them. They could probably give it to you for R40 and still be in the green.
4) I'll bet that IPTV will not be a part of normal Internet. It will be a seperate value add service and will not use your bandwidth alotment. You could probably get it without any Internet service at all. Telkom have always seperated the ADSL line bit from the Internet Access bit, hence you needing an ISP in addition to the line.
5) Of course they can differentiate between different traffic types and destinations for measurement and monitoring. It just hasn't been convenient for them to do so up till now.
 
People I just see this as another opportunity for Telkom to Rip us off :( nothing doing here :/

btw Any new info on the """""""promised""""""" triple play 90mbps from GOAL later this year?? been awfully quite since i saw that article
 
Jonny Two Shoes said:
People I just see this as another opportunity for Telkom to Rip us off :( nothing doing here :/ )
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Well they don't have a monopoly over TV in SA so it makes things a bit harder for them. They actually have to produce a product that is attractive to a consumer who has (some) choice. If they produce a service in the way they are used to, then noboddy will buy it. After all there is already DSTV, SABC, ETV.

My bet is that you won't see a normal TV type service. As in 24hours a day scheduled programming and multiple channels. At least not at first. I predict some sort of Video on Demand service. Probably a pay per view type deal.

You can already download TV shows etc off XBox Live. I'll bet it's something along those lines, only with Telkom as a partner because otherwise their bandwidth costs / service would just make it too expensive or totally unpractical.

So yeah, I think this may be something worth keeping an eye on.
 
mmm just a thought maybe there is a xbox live/telkom partnership in the pipeline as well...
 
Delivery of TV services will cost Telkom little in the way of backone IP bw (local or intl).

The ADSL network is concentrated into 20-30 (estimate) very big Cisco 10000 ESR routers spread around the country. The ESRs are the gateways between the access network (ADSL/ATM) and their IP backbone (SAIX).

All they will probably do, is deploy the video server(s) right next to the ESRs on seperate Gigabit Ethernet ports. So the video streams only use bw on the ADSL/ATM access portion, no Internet bw at all. The only backbone IP bw used (if at all) will be to sync the content to the various video server(s).
 
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