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Hello all,

I hope I can use your collective knowledge to get Telkom to admit to an issue on my line. A quick brief;

On the 12th of February, my line lost sync for approx 45~ minutes, upon reconnecting I noticed small amounts of packet loss on the line. I thought a port reset would fix it so I called up my ISP, had them do their magic and after rebooting my modem no improvement was found.

I tried to setup some monitoring tools on my firewall to check when this happens and how bad it gets. I found that this is a constant thing, 24/7 at about <5% loss. Over the weekend I had tested with Vox Telecom, Web Africa, OpenWeb (i know.) Crystal Web and eventually Telkom Internet. The loss was apparent in all tests, regardless of ISP, time or modem.

I asked a person I know who works closely with these kinds of issues and due to the low amount of lost packets and overall semi-usable performance of the line, Telkom would charge me for a call-out and a port change would have no effect. Is this accurate?

Line health is great, syncing at 20Mbs ADSL2+ for almost a year without any issues until now. No noise, low attenuation and decent SNR. The line does not lose sync, it only drops small amounts of packets to the exchange.


Do I go the usual route with creating a fault, getting a reference and praying it gets fixed or is there a more pro-active route I can take?


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If the fault is legit, and yours is, they can stand on their heads re: unnecessary call out fee. Contact the area manager tel number...
 
If the fault is legit, and yours is, they can stand on their heads re: unnecessary call out fee. Contact the area manager tel number...

i did, he said he would get back to me this week but from the sound of his voice i doubt he gives a flying..
 
They usually do care, in fact, but are pretty busy blokes. Give it some time with them before following up...
 
They usually do care, in fact, but are pretty busy blokes. Give it some time with them before following up...

should I log a fault in the meantime to get a reference as proof? or should i wait for him before logging anything official?
 
Log the fault, give him the reference. Your line is back with Telkom BTW. Should be completed on their end...
 
FYI for anyone calling the Telkom area managers: don't use them as first line support. Report the faults via the normal channels and provide them with the fault reference as last resort if all else fails. Make them helping you as easy as possible, and they'll be far more inclined to go out of their way to help you. And, naturally, always be courteous and friendly...
 
Hey,

I can request your line to be transferred to a different port, I just highly doubt it will help with the packet loss issue you are experiencing.

It seems to come in at hop 2 which is exchange and continues every couple of hops here and there, about 1 or 2% loss out of 300 icmp packets. your final hop however doesn't have any loss.

Your pings are consistently low which doesn't suggest exchange problems, I've also checked whether the links coming into the exchange are congested - they are not - The exchange is also an MSAN so it is doubtful it will ever have exchange congestion.

If you do log a fault, A tech will come out, won't be able to figure it out, see that your speeds are fine and latency is low and go back and log it as a client router issue and charge a call out fee.
 
Hey,

I can request your line to be transferred to a different port, I just highly doubt it will help with the packet loss issue you are experiencing.

It seems to come in at hop 2 which is exchange and continues every couple of hops here and there, about 1 or 2% loss out of 300 icmp packets. your final hop however doesn't have any loss.

Your pings are consistently low which doesn't suggest exchange problems, I've also checked whether the links coming into the exchange are congested - they are not - The exchange is also an MSAN so it is doubtful it will ever have exchange congestion.

If you do log a fault, A tech will come out, won't be able to figure it out, see that your speeds are fine and latency is low and go back and log it as a client router issue and charge a call out fee.

That's the thing I was worried about. Latency and speeds are good, but that packet loss is really causing stuff to break here and there. This us the weirdest issue I've ever faced and I just want it gone. I'm out of ideas and at this point I'll try whatever.
 
slvr, have you tried dropping your current setup and trying a simple modem connection to test with? Although this issue stated immediately after the Telkom changes in your area. The coincidence is a little too much to ignore...
 
slvr, have you tried dropping your current setup and trying a simple modem connection to test with? Although this issue stated immediately after the Telkom changes in your area. The coincidence is a little too much to ignore...

Yes. Used an old trusty 2500U in Bridge mode and dialled from my PC without anything in between. Then used a Netgear 2200. All showed the same issues
 
I'm out of ideas, Also thought your pfsense box could have maybe caused an issue but alas.
 
I'm out of ideas, Also thought your pfsense box could have maybe caused an issue but alas.

You were there when i disconnected everything and tried with the single modem :P

fk knows at this point
 
Filters? Electric interference? Cable swap? Loose connection? Checked the Telkom pole outside your house for anything interfering?

BTW, we had the exact same issue on two test lines after the Telkom cutover to the new BNG equipment. Also dropped sync and were auto downgraded, with absolutely perfect line stats. Massive exchange latency. Happened the moment the line came back up from the cutover. Still no resolution...
 
Filters? Electric interference? Cable swap? Loose connection? Checked the Telkom pole outside your house for anything interfering?

BTW, we had the exact same issue on two test lines after the Telkom cutover to the new BNG equipment. Also dropped sync and were auto downgraded, with absolutely perfect line stats. Still no resolution...

Welcome to ASSIA!

To add the cherry on the top, We can manually change your sync speed back to the old speeds, Depending on how aggressive ASSIA is feeling, it'll change your line back to a lower sync or leave it.
 
gonna rip everything connected to a phone port and use different filters and hopefully...
 
Welcome to ASSIA!

To add the cherry on the top, We can manually change your sync speed back to the old speeds, Depending on how aggressive ASSIA is feeling, it'll change your line back to a lower sync or leave it.
Ours weren't dropped sync though come to think of it. Exchange stopped sending auth packets and simply and simply dropped the connection to the ISP. FYI, we're seeing a ton of issues on assia. Like stop packets no longer being sent properly. Check latest auth issues across ISPs. Not seeing stop packets for numerous session changes and actual disconnects, causing concurrency issues and auth rejections...

Edit: Telkom guest account retains connectivity. So seems like a configuration issue routing over IPC network...
 
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