Free WiFi access in Tshwane to end

I can understand if the free Wifi wasn't viable but why cancel the paid service when you've already built a network?
 
Syndyre said:
I can understand if the free Wifi wasn't viable but why cancel the paid service when you've already built a network?
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Sadly the Proof of Concept agreement with the City of Tshwane has now come to an end.

I think Neology had an agreement with Tshwane and this agreement was terminated for whatever reason (time frame, new management at Tshwane...whatever). Unfortunately Neology did not supply feedback by the time fo publication, but maybe they will comment here...
 
rpm said:
Sadly the Proof of Concept agreement with the City of Tshwane has now come to an end.

I think Neology had an agreement with Tshwane and this agreement was terminated for whatever reason (time frame, new management at Tshwane...whatever). Unfortunately Neology did not supply feedback by the time fo publication, but maybe they will comment here...
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Ok, it just seemed like a good initiative that could have been replicated in other cities and provide Telkom with a bit of competition. You have to wonder if it wasn't stifled by government.
 
Syndyre said:
Ok, it just seemed like a good initiative that could have been replicated in other cities and provide Telkom with a bit of competition. You have to wonder if it wasn't stifled by government.
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Indeed. It was an excellent initiative and one can trust Neology with such a project. Things at the Joburg and Tshwane broadband projects may however not be the same as previously... Charles and Douglas were key staff, and their departure is really bad news.
 
rpm said:
Indeed. It was an excellent initiative and one can trust Neology with such a project. Things at the Joburg and Tshwane broadband projects may however not be the same as previously... Charles and Douglas were key staff, and their departure is really bad news.
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Knysna and CT still have similar initiatives don't they, or CT's planning to at least. Hopefully they'll lay the groundwork for something that could be rolled out to other cities.
 
Syndyre said:
Knysna and CT still have similar initiatives don't they, or CT's planning to at least. Hopefully they'll lay the groundwork for something that could be rolled out to other cities.
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Yes, but rolling out competence to incompetent municipalities is a near impossible task, and certainly not the job of companies sub-contracted to implement and manage a broadband network, and believe me the City of Joburg municipality is largely incompetent.
 
Cheap services doesn't seem to be viable for the companies operating here. Free services certainly isn't. It would have happened in any case sooner or later.
 
Prometheus said:
Cheap services doesn't seem to be viable for the companies operating here. Free services certainly isn't. It would have happened in any case sooner or later.
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Apart from stating the obvious, how is your post relevant to this discussion, and did you read the article? - just curious to know where you're coming from and if you understand that Telkodemonopolies still has a de fcato wired fixed line monopoly in SA that affects all other network operators [wireless included] and their pricing...
 
ic said:
Yes, but rolling out competence to incompetent municipalities is a near impossible task, and certainly not the job of companies sub-contracted to implement and manage a broadband network, and believe me the City of Joburg municipality is largely incompetent.
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Don't have any trouble believing that, haven't found a municipality yet that isn't. :p
 
Syndyre said:
Don't have any trouble believing that, haven't found a municipality yet that isn't. :p
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Well Knysna has proved itself to have vision & competence on the wifi broadband side, remains to be seen if CT can do the same.

It really would be nice if municipalities got their **** together and implemented broadband networks to compete with Telkodemonopolies from a social responsibility POV - if nothing else, but I have to admit that getting "broadband" from the City of Joburg could possibly be worse than being one of Telkodemonopolies' hostages currently is.
 
ic said:
Well Knysna has proved itself to have vision & competence on the wifi broadband side, remains to be seen if CT can do the same.

It really would be nice if municipalities got their **** together and implemented broadband networks to compete with Telkodemonopolies from a social responsibility POV - if nothing else, but I have to admit that getting "broadband" from the City of Joburg could possibly be worse than being one of Telkodemonopolies' hostages currently is.
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It'd be fine if it was totally outsourced to a private company, if it was handled by the same municipal offices that bill you for water & electrictiy etc. then :eek:. I think the Pretoria model was a good one, limited free Wifi and then an option to pay for a better/faster service if you wanted it.
 
Syndyre said:
It'd be fine if it was totally outsourced to a private company, if it was handled by the same municipal offices that bill you for water & electrictiy etc. then :eek:. I think the Pretoria model was a good one, limited free Wifi and then an option to pay for a better/faster service if you wanted it.
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That's actually Neology's model :).

Not sure where it is, but try and get hold of Roelf's presentation from last year's MyBroadband conference.
 
ic said:
That's actually Neology's model :).

Not sure where it is, but try and get hold of Roelf's presentation from last year's MyBroadband conference.
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That's what I thought, guess they weren't pleasing the masters anymore. It'd be hard to offer free Wifi without some sort of government subsidy with SA's prices but this is exactly the sort of thing a municipality should be supporting IMO.

Thanks I'll see if I can find it somewhere.:)
 
i can understand the free part coming to a end but why then paying customers?!
 
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