Billions for fibre roll-out

I think I need to get into the "digging a hole" business. There are so many cables being laid that there must be constant demand for persons/businesses to come and dig holes. Or maybe I should revolutionise the whole field and simply drill a few tunnels between cities and under cities so that whoever wants to lay a cable can simply send it through the whole at little to no cost. Thus "laying" a cable say between Durban and Joburg only take a day, maybe 2 at most, as the trench/tunnel is already there, its simply about sending the delivery vehicle with the 500-600km of cable through it, which could be done at a slow pace of say 15km/h.
 
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At this rate, trucks trying to lay fiber is going to be the single biggest cause of traffic jams....:)

Did anyone else also notice in the Neotel presentation how shallow the fiber cables were in the pics Angus put up? What happens if they resurface the road?
 
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vodacom3g said:
At this rate, trucks trying to lay fiber is going to be the single biggest cause of traffic jams....:)

Did anyone else also notice in the Neotel presentation how shallow the fiber cables were in the pics Angus put up? What happens if the resurface the road?
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Ya, also seen that.

Biggest issue will be somebody digging up the road to lay a new fiber, and cut three other fibers in the process :D
 
vodacom3g said:
Did anyone else also notice in the Neotel presentation how shallow the fiber cables were in the pics Angus put up? What happens if the resurface the road?
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Neotel's fibre is between 400mm and 1000mm below the road surface. If you digging that deep during resurfacing then you doing something wrong :rolleyes:

Of course there is the chance of backhoe failures at that depth but then how deep do you have to go to avoid that? I've also observed a number of 'BMW failures' on the street lamps holding their overhead Metro-E fibre but redundant fiber rings are your friend. :D

I'm glad that someone has woken up to the fact that digging one set of trenches and sharing out that lambda's is a much more cost effective method of deployment than half a dozen separate fiber networks.
 
vodacom3g said:
At this rate, trucks trying to lay fiber is going to be the single biggest cause of traffic jams....:)

Did anyone else also notice in the Neotel presentation how shallow the fiber cables were in the pics Angus put up? What happens if the resurface the road?
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Where are the photos?
 
WOW. I am speechless. Nice to see some development for a change.
My attitude towards SA might just change soon :)
 
I think laying fibre is a great idea for the long term. Many people seem to think Wimax will be the end of all our problems but I don't it's the way to go.

Wireless is fine for last mile but we need a good fibre infrastucture. There's obviously money to be made, that's why we're seeing all these companies laying fibre. It will only benefit us, the consumer and with more competition, prices have only one way to go - down, down, down. It can't happen quick enough.
 
stuyv said:
My attitude towards SA might just change soon :)
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Scrap that! IOL.co.za & news24.com just released increades petrol prices of 43c per litre as of Wednesday! inflation is out of control and the interest rate is going up as of 6 December. Rumors of interest rate can climb up to 20% next coming quarters!! :eek:
 
stuyv said:
Scrap that! IOL.co.za & news24.com just released increades petrol prices of 43c per litre as of Wednesday! inflation is out of control and the interest rate is going up as of 6 December. Rumors of interest rate can climb up to 20% next coming quarters!! :eek:
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Petrol price UP
Bandwidth price DOWN

Suddenly the business case for telecommuting looks very appealing :D
 
stuyv said:
Scrap that! IOL.co.za & news24.com just released increades petrol prices of 43c per litre as of Wednesday! inflation is out of control and the interest rate is going up as of 6 December. Rumors of interest rate can climb up to 20% next coming quarters!! :eek:
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Inflation is out of control? And you do realise that the petrol price increase was inevitable once crude oil hit $90/barrel right? The price doesn't change immediately as the crude oil price changes, you only notice the effects after a couple of months.
 
UglyKidJoe said:
You're kidding right? Did you peruse the article at all?
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My point being that some institution is forking out billions in the hope of making it back in the SA TELECOMS SECTOR...
Someone needs their heads read.

Please tell me how the SA TELECOMS SECTOR is not high risk...
Ask Eskom if you don't believe me.
 
Oupoot said:
I think I need to get into the "digging a hole" business. There are so many cables being laid that there must be constant demand for persons/businesses to come and dig holes. Or maybe I should revolutionise the whole field and simply drill a few tunnels between cities and under cities so that whoever wants to lay a cable can simply send it through the whole at little to no cost. Thus "laying" a cable say between Durban and Joburg only take a day, maybe 2 at most, as the trench/tunnel is already there, its simply about sending the delivery vehicle with the 500-600km of cable through it, which could be done at a slow pace of say 15km/h.
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That is why South Korea mandates a 110pvc underground ducting across all properties. No building permit is given until they know where is that pipe for the ducting. See http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/SouthKoreaMandatesDucting
 
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