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Yeah I should on my Windows PC, my daily driver is a Mint machine though. Windows is on the Rog Ally's and gaming PCs for now.
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wizardofid
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Sadly I can't do linux, development software is windows based. Software doesn't support linux file system or proton....
Fulcrum29
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For those with old hardware who are considering playing Crimson Desert. AMD's GCN-era GPUs aren't supported. It is lacking on the DX12 side. You need a GPU that supports DX12_1. Are there Vulkan workarounds, eh, maybe, but don't expect it to be great since it would have to be emulated/simulated, and you would need to run Linux. This is applicable to shaders (I think). GCN 4/5 only have partial DX12_1 support.
Then there is Intel Arc. Doesn't run the game, likely due to drivers. I have read a bit online, and Arc GPUs don't seem to be well optimised with Pearl Abyss titles.
I hope that this is resolved with a new Intel Arc driver or game patch. The game only goes live today at midnight, so there is still time. I saw that content creators with Arc GPUs who got early access to the game are sitting ducks. Intel doesn't seem to answer their calls.
It is also worth noting that the game doesn't run great on GTX 10, though playable. Does run good enough on a RX 5700.
Then there is Intel Arc. Doesn't run the game, likely due to drivers. I have read a bit online, and Arc GPUs don't seem to be well optimised with Pearl Abyss titles.
I hope that this is resolved with a new Intel Arc driver or game patch. The game only goes live today at midnight, so there is still time. I saw that content creators with Arc GPUs who got early access to the game are sitting ducks. Intel doesn't seem to answer their calls.
It is also worth noting that the game doesn't run great on GTX 10, though playable. Does run good enough on a RX 5700.
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something to laugh at and spit out your coffee on your computer screen this morning 
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The 9750x is just the 9700x when you allow the TDP to go to 120w
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I mean the GCN era last GPU was 9/10 years ago? The Vega was the last one
Fulcrum29
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I see Intel said that they are planning on extending the service life of their future sockets. That would mean that they will be consilidating some stuff on their standards. It is very good for the consumers, but I want to see it before I believe it. They can announce a new socket tomorrow, and kill it off after two cycles. How do you convince new buyers if the idea cannot be sold? It is hard to change habits.
Anyhow, I am just happy that Intel is getting back into the game.
Anyhow, I am just happy that Intel is getting back into the game.
Fulcrum29
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Some interesting pushback against how Intel is going about things with their BOT:
www.geekbench.com
Now I need to ask, and though it is not the same, but AMD's 3D V-Cache Optimizer serves a similar purpose.
BOT works at a binary level which reoptimize instructions. This is post-compilation. AMD on the other hand uses a schedular that directs workloads to cores with 3D V-Cache, but does so by intervening in the OS kernel scheduling decisions. Both use whitelisting. They are both used to best utilise the CPU architecture on a "case-by-case" basis.
The optimiser aside, AMD also have a Application Compatibility Database, that works with the optimiser driver and the Provisioning Packages Services. This tool was, IIRC, co-developed with MS, and reduce the thread pool size where required, application pending. Though this was originally developed to best use Threadripper, it was launched as a Ryzen 9000 consumer-exclusive.
BOT is interesting though, and works strictly with the binary. I would assume that there will be some teething issues, but I can't see AMD not copying it. I don't understand why people are picking on it.
Just putting it out there, this is why Apple is so strong within their own ecosystem, everything is tightly integrated. Compilers, layers, etc.
Personally, I think this is unnecessary critique. At least Intel isn't thinking inside.
The only problem I can see are malicious users exploiting this, using the tool as a masquerade to load cheats, viruses, etc.
Geekbench 6 and Intel's Binary Optimization Tool - Geekbench Blog
www.geekbench.com
Now I need to ask, and though it is not the same, but AMD's 3D V-Cache Optimizer serves a similar purpose.
BOT works at a binary level which reoptimize instructions. This is post-compilation. AMD on the other hand uses a schedular that directs workloads to cores with 3D V-Cache, but does so by intervening in the OS kernel scheduling decisions. Both use whitelisting. They are both used to best utilise the CPU architecture on a "case-by-case" basis.
The optimiser aside, AMD also have a Application Compatibility Database, that works with the optimiser driver and the Provisioning Packages Services. This tool was, IIRC, co-developed with MS, and reduce the thread pool size where required, application pending. Though this was originally developed to best use Threadripper, it was launched as a Ryzen 9000 consumer-exclusive.
BOT is interesting though, and works strictly with the binary. I would assume that there will be some teething issues, but I can't see AMD not copying it. I don't understand why people are picking on it.
Just putting it out there, this is why Apple is so strong within their own ecosystem, everything is tightly integrated. Compilers, layers, etc.
Personally, I think this is unnecessary critique. At least Intel isn't thinking inside.
The only problem I can see are malicious users exploiting this, using the tool as a masquerade to load cheats, viruses, etc.
Fulcrum29
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They made it,
but it would be interesting to see how well it behaves in games.
For those not watching the video,
but it would be interesting to see how well it behaves in games.
For those not watching the video,
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Fulcrum29
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I tend to agree with this person,
It will be AMD's best productivity CPU, but how much does the cache factor into this architecture. It will change a lot when Zen 6 comes out, but AMD made this to stay well ahead in productivity rankings (even if it is up to 13%). Intel also just confirmed that though the 290K Plus exists, it won't come to market. For gamers, it is best to stick with the 9800X3D/9850X3D. I won't even be surprised if it is safer to stick to a 9900/9950X3D.
I am just waiting for AMD's own BOT-like software, which I won't be surprised to see introduced with Zen 6.
It will be AMD's best productivity CPU, but how much does the cache factor into this architecture. It will change a lot when Zen 6 comes out, but AMD made this to stay well ahead in productivity rankings (even if it is up to 13%). Intel also just confirmed that though the 290K Plus exists, it won't come to market. For gamers, it is best to stick with the 9800X3D/9850X3D. I won't even be surprised if it is safer to stick to a 9900/9950X3D.
I am just waiting for AMD's own BOT-like software, which I won't be surprised to see introduced with Zen 6.
Fulcrum29
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He didn't do a gaming benchmark, but he posted it on their discussion board:
Intel B70 Launch - Unboxed and Tested
B70 Info A B70?!? In this economy? And yet this may be the “best” path to 128gb vram for around/less than the cost of DGX spark. Assuming you have a machine to plug them into. B70 32gb AI llm-scaler (vLLM) testing vllm serve...
forum.level1techs.com
That is not bad. Sadly it is expensive, most likely due to the VRAM count, but architecturally this card is very enabled with virtualisation. A pretty good workstation GPU IMHO. Would have loved to see a consumer version.
Custom versions are on the way, and apparently this GPU has quite the power ceiling should it be so desired.
Intel is cooking. I hope that there will be a C-Series, which is likely.
Fulcrum29
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Here you go Nvidia peeps:
There is a lot more to this update, but I am not going to post the notes. DLSS 4.5 is leaving beta, in a nutshell.
NVIDIA App Update Adds DLSS 4.5 Dynamic Multi Frame Generation, Intelligently Balancing Frame Rates, Image Quality & Responsiveness
Additionally, increase DLSS Multi Frame Generation to 6X, enhance select games with a new DLSS Frame Generation model, create custom resolutions in the NVIDIA app, and rebuild DirectX 12 shaders following a driver update, accelerating load times.
www.nvidia.com
There is a lot more to this update, but I am not going to post the notes. DLSS 4.5 is leaving beta, in a nutshell.
CheddarByte
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They made it, but for what?They made it,
but it would be interesting to see how well it behaves in games.
For those not watching the video,
The only applicable use case I can see here is power users doing PC virtualization who want two high-performance game instances running on one machine.
Having split, larger L3 caches won't help anyone, unless your software can be made NUMA-aware, which no games will, and no rendering/production apps outside of CFD will see any meaningful bump because of the X3D.
Calling it now,
Game performance from 9950X3D2 vs 9850X3D will be largely unchanged depending on how many background processes the reviewers are running & if they've moved them to the 2nd CCD.
We'd be much better off seeing one CCD with under-overstack chip design, 160Mb L3 cache on 8-cores (8c+160mb) will perform better in games than (8c+96mb) + (8c+96mb)
Fulcrum29
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It is definitely not made for you.
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Fulcrum29
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I am considering one for a new lab PC. For the price, and the benchmarks I have seen applicable to my use case, these are great value. It is only the platform that concerns me, but lab PCs last me a very long time.If anyone wants a 250K Plus/KF Plus, stock is on hand.
Intel Core Ultra 5 250K PLUS 18 Core CPU, No Cooler, LGA1851, 4.2GHz (5.3GHz Turbo) — Best Deals at Progenix — South Africa
The Intel Core Ultra 5 250K Plus desktop processor is a powerful device suitable for gamers and users whose work requires high performance. This model from the second series refresh of Ultra 5 processors supports DDR5 memory and PCIe 5.0 and 4.0 interface
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The Intel Core Ultra 5 250KF Plus desktop processor is a powerful device suitable for gamers and users whose work requires high performance. This model from the second series refresh of Ultra 5 processors supports DDR5 memory and PCIe 5.0 and 4.0 interfac
These should be more than adequate for CAD and other studio applications.
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Ugh, sometimes I feel like really throws punches left, right and centre.
I'm having to put my AM4 system up for sale, but hopefully I will be back later in the year when the dust has settled. It turns out that hospitals really know how to bill you for all manner of things
What would a good ballpark price be for a B550M/5900x/3080Ti/32GB DDR4-3600 system? I have it up for R22k right now, but I am not sure if this is a tad optimistic on my part.
I'm having to put my AM4 system up for sale, but hopefully I will be back later in the year when the dust has settled. It turns out that hospitals really know how to bill you for all manner of things
What would a good ballpark price be for a B550M/5900x/3080Ti/32GB DDR4-3600 system? I have it up for R22k right now, but I am not sure if this is a tad optimistic on my part.